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Here are some viewership details of this year's French Open.

1. Tennis Channel’s coverage of the 2022 French Open produced the most-watched match in the network’s 19-year history. The night-session quarterfinal between all-time greats Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic on May 31 generated 666,000 viewers. This surpassed the previous single-match record of 511,000 viewers, set by the same players at last year’s French Open, in a semifinal on June 11, 2021.

Tennis Channel sees most-watched match during French Open

2. Rafael Nadal's French Open quarterfinal defeat of Novak Djokovic broke Eurosport's viewership record to become the most-watched Roland Garros match in the channel's history.

The quarterfinal, which lasted more than four hours, saw an average of 833,000 viewers tune in throughout the match. The total viewership crossed the one million mark, registering 1,036,993 at the end.

It became the second-most-watched match in Eurosport's history, with Nadal's win over Daniil Medvedev in the 2022 Australian Open final generating over 1.3 million viewers.

Earlier on Wednesday, the match between Carlos Alcaraz and Alexander Zverev registered over half a million (544,687) viewers.

Rafael Nadal's win over Novak Djokovic shatters Eurosport's French Open viewership record (sportskeeda.com)

3. According to Mediametrie, a France-based company that specializes in audience measurement, the two-week long tournament was watched by over 42 million people in France.

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French Open 2022 viewership breaches the 42-million mark in France (sportskeeda.com)
 

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42 million people? LOL They mean 1 million watching 42 matches smh
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DarkoAqua said:
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"The Nadal-Ruud men's final: 4.6M viewers on average and 39.4% audience share, the best ratings since 2012
since 2012, so before 2012, I found this (after 2021 final)



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La finale de ROLAND-GARROS entre Novak Djokovic et Stefanos Tsitsipas a été regardée sur France 2 par 4.43 Millions de téléspectateurs avec un pic d’audience à 7.6 Millions!
En 2020, 3.8M ont suivi la finale Rafa Nadal/Djokovic ;
en 2019, 3.3M étaient devant Nadal/Dominic Thiem.
Il faut remonter à 2011 pour retrouver une audience plus importante avec 5.3M de personnes devant Nadal/Roger Federer.
Même aux USA sur NBC, Djokovic-Tsitsipas a rassemblé 19% de téléspectateurs en plus par rapport à la finale d’octobre 2020.
 

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Here are some viewership details of this year's French Open.

1. Tennis Channel’s coverage of the 2022 French Open produced the most-watched match in the network’s 19-year history. The night-session quarterfinal between all-time greats Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic on May 31 generated 666,000 viewers. This surpassed the previous single-match record of 511,000 viewers, set by the same players at last year’s French Open, in a semifinal on June 11, 2021.

Tennis Channel sees most-watched match during French Open

2. Rafael Nadal's French Open quarterfinal defeat of Novak Djokovic broke Eurosport's viewership record to become the most-watched Roland Garros match in the channel's history.

The quarterfinal, which lasted more than four hours, saw an average of 833,000 viewers tune in throughout the match. The total viewership crossed the one million mark, registering 1,036,993 at the end.

It became the second-most-watched match in Eurosport's history, with Nadal's win over Daniil Medvedev in the 2022 Australian Open final generating over 1.3 million viewers.

Earlier on Wednesday, the match between Carlos Alcaraz and Alexander Zverev registered over half a million (544,687) viewers.

Rafael Nadal's win over Novak Djokovic shatters Eurosport's French Open viewership record (sportskeeda.com)

3. According to Mediametrie, a France-based company that specializes in audience measurement, the two-week long tournament was watched by over 42 million people in France.

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French Open 2022 viewership breaches the 42-million mark in France (sportskeeda.com)
Nadal is a ratings magnet clearly. Medvedev, Ruud, Djokovic. It doesn't matter. You put Nadal on the card and he will draw. Heck he will draw vs me.
 

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GOATdal's legend keeps growing. :worship:
While Nadal is definitely not the Greatest Tennis Player of all time. Or even his own ers, he clearly is the Ratings GOAT.

If Hercules was a demi God, Rafael Nadal is a demo God. Since he rules all the key demographics. Let boring players and their insecure fans fight over being the Goat. Nadal doesn't needs to be the GOAT to be lovable and watchable. While I am not Uncle Toni and I can't teach my nephew to play like that, I would love if my nephew behaves like Rafa Nadal.
 

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While Nadal is definitely not the Greatest Tennis Player of all time. Or even his own ers, …
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…he clearly is the Ratings GOAT. If Hercules was a demi God, Rafael Nadal is a demo God. Since he rules all the key demographics. Let boring players and their insecure fans fight over being the Goat. Nadal doesn't needs to be the GOAT to be lovable and watchable. While I am not Uncle Toni and I can't teach my nephew to play like that, I would love if my nephew behaves like Rafa Nadal.
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While Nadal is definitely not the Greatest Tennis Player of all time. Or even his own ers, he clearly is the Ratings GOAT.

If Hercules was a demi God, Rafael Nadal is a demo God. Since he rules all the key demographics. Let boring players and their insecure fans fight over being the Goat. Nadal doesn't needs to be the GOAT to be lovable and watchable. While I am not Uncle Toni and I can't teach my nephew to play like that, I would love if my nephew behaves like Rafa Nadal.
I am a bit curious, but who do you think is ahead of Nadal in the GOAT race?
 

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TV viewership should actually decline due to access to coverage on streaming platforms.
But Tennis Channel is a streaming service. It gives easier access to watching tennis compared with the old days when you had to pay for satellite TV and extra subscriptions like Eurosport and Sky Sport (or whatever is in your country) which cost a lot more because you had to buy all sports not just tennis.
 

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But Tennis Channel is a streaming service. It gives easier access to watching tennis compared with the old days when you had to pay for satellite TV and extra subscriptions like Eurosport and Sky Sport (or whatever is in your country) which cost a lot more because you had to buy all sports not just tennis.
Of course for streaming platforms the only way is up.
 

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Read up on Shingo Kuneida. And I am not one to buy stuff like draw size 128> draw size 4. No it isn't. Both are exactly the same. :)
Even keeping Kunieda aside, Djokovic, Bryans, Serena and even Federer (by virtue of winning the major major 8 times) have compelling cases. In case of Serena, it's a no contest once we factor in her doubles record. So we are doing ourselves a great disservice if we are to pretend that Rafa (while being my personal favourite) is the greatest of this era. No singles specialist can be that. Their super weak work rate is simply too low for that exalted status. Being an arbitrary GOAT won't make Rafa a better player than he is. Not being the same won't make him worse. Me and you will always enjoy him regardless of his position in the so called slam race (a race in which each of the Big 3 are at zero).

Let insecure kids worry about Goats and sheep and pigeons. Fact is you will enjoy and prefer watching Rafa over Roger or Nole even if Roger and Nole were at 25. And that's the only thing that matters.


Sampras is at 14. Agassi is at 8. I will prefer watching their old matches vs Pioline or Muster over Federer Bagdhatis or Federer Gonzales. Someone else, younger will prefer Federer.

20 years from now, tennis watchers will term 10 major winners as "Goat" discounting Big 3 as dinosaurs from 5 set era. All we can do is chuckle. The sport is supposed to be enjoyed. For all the talks of artistry, I never enjoyed watching Federer. He is no Graf. That's art. Have no interest in Dimitrov or Wawrinka or Gasquet either. One handed backhand, unless used for special killer occasions like Graf's and thus with high utility and point win percentage are weak and basically a way to gift the point to a good opponent. Stats back this observation.

I have always loved what are now called "servebots" and baseliners as I liked Sampras and Agassi. Thus I love Venus, find Raonic watchable and like Alcaraz. (And ofcourse Djodal. The baseline kings who will trouble prime Agassi with equitable resources and technology in the same era.)
 

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Read up on Shingo Kuneida. And I am not one to buy stuff like draw size 128> draw size 4. No it isn't. Both are exactly the same. :)
Even keeping Kunieda aside, Djokovic, Bryans, Serena and even Federer (by virtue of winning the major major 8 times) have compelling cases. In case of Serena, it's a no contest once we factor in her doubles record. So we are doing ourselves a great disservice if we are to pretend that Rafa (while being my personal favourite) is the greatest of this era. No singles specialist can be that. Their super weak work rate is simply too low for that exalted status. Being an arbitrary GOAT won't make Rafa a better player than he is. Not being the same won't make him worse. Me and you will always enjoy him regardless of his position in the so called slam race (a race in which each of the Big 3 are at zero).

Let insecure kids worry about Goats and sheep and pigeons. Fact is you will enjoy and prefer watching Rafa over Roger or Nole even if Roger and Nole were at 25. And that's the only thing that matters.


Sampras is at 14. Agassi is at 8. I will prefer watching their old matches vs Pioline or Muster over Federer Bagdhatis or Federer Gonzales. Someone else, younger will prefer Federer.

20 years from now, tennis watchers will term 10 major winners as "Goat" discounting Big 3 as dinosaurs from 5 set era. All we can do is chuckle. The sport is supposed to be enjoyed. For all the talks of artistry, I never enjoyed watching Federer. He is no Graf. That's art. Have no interest in Dimitrov or Wawrinka or Gasquet either. One handed backhand, unless used for special killer occasions like Graf's and thus with high utility and point win percentage are weak and basically a way to gift the point to a good opponent. Stats back this observation.

I have always loved what are now called "servebots" and baseliners as I liked Sampras and Agassi. Thus I love Venus, find Raonic watchable and like Alcaraz. (And ofcourse Djodal. The baseline kings who will trouble prime Agassi with equitable resources and technology in the same era.)
Though the new, post 2017 Federer is much more watchable and is a far better player than the old one due to his more lethal backhand. He played well in 2017 and deserved to win. Unlike 2006 and 2007 Wimbledons when Rafa wasnt ready once and failed to close the 2nd time. Or even that WTF.
 

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I am a bit curious, but who do you think is ahead of Nadal in the GOAT race?
In this era? Kunieda and Serena for sure.
Bryans, Nestor, Djokovic, Federer and Venus all have cases. In a couple of years, Diede van Groot too will have a case. And maybe even Gordon Reid and Alfie Hewett. Though currently, I will rate Rafa as #3 of this era, despite many others having done better at home of tennis due to his superior Davis Cup and Olympics records.

There is a difference between Greatest Tennis Player of All time and Greatest Men's Singles Tennis Player of The Open Era after all. How can any singles specialist with their abysmal work rates even figure in the conversation for the overall greatest? Isn't the very premise prepostorous?
 

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In this era? Kunieda and Serena for sure.
Bryans, Nestor, Djokovic, Federer and Venus all have cases. In a couple of years, Diede van Groot too will have a case. And maybe even Gordon Reid and Alfie Hewett. Though currently, I will rate Rafa as #3 of this era, despite many others having done better at home of tennis due to his superior Davis Cup and Olympics records.

There is a difference between Greatest Tennis Player of All time and Greatest Men's Singles Tennis Player of The Open Era after all. How can any singles specialist with their abysmal work rates even figure in the conversation for the overall greatest? Isn't the very premise prepostorous?
Most of the names you mentioned are from other divisions. I was talking about men's singles since most of Nadal's achievements are in that division (moreover this is Men's tennis forums though you can discuss doubles also). There is a sister site named 'Tennis forums' for WTA stuff.

Since you have mentioned Djokovic and Federer, I would like to ask you who among the two leads the GOAT race (men's singles)?
 

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In this era? Kunieda and Serena for sure.
Bryans, Nestor, Djokovic, Federer and Venus all have cases. In a couple of years, Diede van Groot too will have a case. And maybe even Gordon Reid and Alfie Hewett. Though currently, I will rate Rafa as #3 of this era, despite many others having done better at home of tennis due to his superior Davis Cup and Olympics records.

There is a difference between Greatest Tennis Player of All time and Greatest Men's Singles Tennis Player of The Open Era after all. How can any singles specialist with their abysmal work rates even figure in the conversation for the overall greatest? Isn't the very premise prepostorous?
Are you one of those AI bots that almost passes for human?
 
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