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Watching this video really got me thinking about this:


It really is shocking to me that some americans can't answer such SIMPLE questions about their history yet know who the sposue of a famous celebrity is. These people are the future of our generation (although I'm sure the folks in the video will play no tangible role in the deciding the outlook and thank GOD). I'm not even American yet I knew the answer to those questions. It genuinely scares me that there are people like that in the populous deciding the outlook of our country by voting. I really do think there needs to be requirements you hve to meet to get a vote. I think it should be restricted to:

a). Be 28 or over
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b). Have an IQ of 100 or over

What do you guys think?
 

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Yeah, no it's bad.
Newsweek conducted a poll of 1,000 people: 29% couldn't name the VP, 73% couldn't answer why we (U.S.) fought the Cold War, 44% weren't able to define the Bill of Rights, and 6% couldn't even circle Independence Day on a calendar.
:scared: :scared: :scared:

I think this goes to show that many people in the US actually vote for superficial reasons, not political and legal reasons...
I think there should really just be a poll on general knowledge, and you should be able to pass it before you vote, if you can't, then you don't deserve it.
 

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^Lol...I'm pretty sure a lot of UKers eat a lot of GMOS...don't even try.
 

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US is full of awful voters. People blindly vote for any random name that represents the political party they favor without knowing anything about their policies or stance on issues. Then you have the idiots that vote based off of religion, skin color, gender, and meaningless things that shouldn't come into play.
 

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US is full of awful voters. People blindly vote for any random name that represents the political party they favor without knowing anything about their policies or stance on issues. Then you have the idiots that vote based off of religion, skin color, gender, and meaningless things that shouldn't come into play.
Exactly. :worship:
 

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US is full of awful voters. People blindly vote for any random name that represents the political party they favor without knowing anything about their policies or stance on issues. Then you have the idiots that vote based off of religion, skin color, gender, and meaningless things that shouldn't come into play.
I don't think this is a particularly US issue, it's a widespread Western phenomenon nowadays. for example in my country (UK) most people can't even name their MP!

WTF and they are given out votes.

It's clear to see that political parties just want to appeal to the lowest denominator, heck elections are decided by appealing to the lowest denominator.


I think the original rules of who was allowed to vote in a democracy were set for a reason; only the rich could vote since they were usually the most educated. Call it classist or whatever but FOR THAT TIME that was an excellent system, however I don't think such a system could work nowadays. Plenty of rich people nowadays give birth to children who are spoilt and know nothing about the world or country and just live for Instagram likes or showing off the riches they've inherited.
 

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"the best arguement against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with a voter"

W. Churchill
 

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I'm sure its argument :scratch:

Hope you don't vote, unless Churchill wrote it ;)
thankfully in said conversation I would've have to spell out words :p

but yes, my spelling is really poor, its quite frustrating, I think I might have mild dyslexia the rest of family has it quite bad.
 

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the inevitability of this flawed system makes ppl in general hate politicians, coz they need to do what has to be done and sometimes (often) it is against the general public opinion, which is often BS coz of the level of the masses.

My personal opinion is that in general voting should be as it is in most places in the world - voluntary and for ppl over 18.

In Bulgaria it should be compulsory, for concrete regional reasons.
 

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No, I don't think welfare parasites should be allowed to steal my earned money in the name of universal suffrage.

I'm not sure what the cut-off should be, however, but that is fortunately not a problem for me to deal with. The old property requirement doesn't compel me because it could and likely would lead to an oligarchy of inherited wealth (and I write this as someone wholly opposed to any tax on inheritance). An IQ prerequisite for voting seems like a good idea (and for anyone seeking British citizenship). In a generous mood, 105 sounds like a good minimum. The average British person would still be able to vote, but the people referred to in my avatar would be denied.
 

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I'm sure its argument :scratch:

Hope you don't vote, unless Churchill wrote it ;)
In fairness, Winston Churchill was a heavy drinker, so TigerTim could be channeling the man's spirit with a typing error. Some argue that Churchill was not even in a fit state to recording his own radio broadcasts during the Second World War; the voice-actor Norman Shelley long maintained that it's his voice we hear on the famous "we shall fight on the beaches" recording.

Not that this is on-topic. Nor am I trying to demonise alcohol. In vino veritas, etc.
 

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I don't have enough knowledge to know how fair this viewpoint is for certain, however I am skeptical of IQ tests as the best way to evaluate someone's ability to submit an informed vote.
 

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I don't have enough knowledge to know how fair this viewpoint is for certain, however I am skeptical of IQ tests as the best way to evaluate someone's ability to submit an informed vote.
Agreed. It should be a basic knowledge quiz about your country, related to topics that the average person in your country should know. You pass, good! You deserve to vote! You fail, you don't deserve it because obviously you have no idea who the fuck to vote for and/or going to vote for a candidate for superficial reasons.
 

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Not my strongest subject considering I rarely take the time to vote unless someone shoves the ballot papers in my face, but my uninformed opinion is that it's okay as it is. Everything's flawed in one way or another.. Democracy, capitalism, liberalism, socialism, communism, left, right, up, down, triangle, circle, square, sex... But every adult human being should be allowed to continue to experience the illusion of making a difference through a vote.

If a nation of people are unable to collectively bring about positive change by voting for the "right" political party, then maybe it's for the best- a sort of political evolution, where humans are the only players.. and losers. In the likely event that you disagree with that, then what we can agree on is the fact that taking away any group's right to vote today will result in a boom in the pitchfork and torch industry.
 
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