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Should MTOs be removed from the game?


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So, I can't help but notice that MTOs are getting more and more frequent in today's game, and they seem to be increasingly used as a cheap way to break your opponent's rythm and get to his nerves rather than a legitimate timeout to address a phisical issue.
Yesterday's clownfest between Monfils and Fognini is the perfect example: Monf took an extremely dubious MTO after dropping the 4th set 6-0 claiming he was fainting, only to restart running left and right, retrieving balls like a mofo a couple minutes later. Fognini replied with a blatantly troll MTO of his own, randomly getting his leg strapped for no reason. Yet the umpire didn't/couldn't do anything about it.
It seems pretty straightforward that, as long as people are allowed to pull off this kind of stuff knowing they won't be questioned, let alone punished for it, the phenomenon will only get worse. If players, and most importantly those at the top of the game (see Nadal) can freely take advantage of it, why wouldn't all the low-tier emerging players try to employ it too?
So, to the question: wouldn't it be much better for the game if MTOs were entirely removed from the game (as there is no way to objectively differentiate genuine injuries from gamesmanship with 100% certainty)? Maybe allow on-the-fly medication during changeovers, but other than that either you tough it out or retire.
Sure, there will be more retirements this way, but at least you won't get the unpleasant feeling that that guy taking an MTO is just a cheap faker every single time.
 

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Nope, if small break is too much to handle maybe player in question should consider retiring :eek: .
 

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yep. in all of respect, i cannot believe federer can't handle these sitautions at this age. he spent 15 years on tour and getting affected by these things? I really think he's mentally not strong at all.
 

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Nope, if small break is too much to handle maybe player in question should consider retiring :eek: .
The fact that mental toughness seems a quality that deserts 95% of the current players is certainly relevant, BUT: is exploiting your opponent's weaknesses with an unwarranted MTO something that should be allowed?
 

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Medical Time Outs should have never been permitted in professional men's tennis. That rule change has made a mockery of the sport.

One of the most fundamental rules in tennis is that there shall be continuous play, and the other rule, that the umpire should not allow extra time for a player to recover. Those rules were in place for ages for a good reason.

MTOs themselves violate these basic rules of the sport. If you are not fit to continue, then you default the next point, if not fit to continue the game, default the game, and keep defaulting games and sets until you can recover or not, or spare everyone and just retire from the match if the injury is too serious to continue.

The MTOs are an abomination and blight on the sport. Obviously, there is too much room for abuse in the effort to be politically correct humanitarians, or to continue for the benefit of the viewing audience and sponsors. This is professional men's tennis, where it is mano a mano, and part of the sport is that you need to be physically healthy. It's not some kid's after school competition where we worry for the children's health, or some film production where the cast of stars are excessively pampered.

How would it be in other individual sports like boxing that after 4 rounds of getting knocked around, you get a chance to go to the locker room for some meds to help those straining legs continue or get your breath back and come back 8 minutes later and deliver a knockout blow with your new found energy? Just ridiculous, ridiculous, ten times ridiculous. Eliminate them.

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Anyway Fed did win that set, so what is your problem? Maybe affected by Gulbis' timeout but won. So you say he lost the 5th set because of the MTO from previous set which he won? :lol:
 

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Medical Time Outs should have never been permitted in professional men's tennis. That rule change has made a mockery of the sport.

One of the most fundamental rules in tennis is that there shall be continuous play, and the other rule, that the umpire should not allow extra time for a player to recover. Those rules were in place for ages for a good reason.

MTOs themselves violate these basic rules of the sport. If you are not fit to continue, then you default the next point, if not fit to continue the game, default the game, and keep defaulting games and sets until you can recover or not, or spare everyone and just retire from the match if the injury is too serious to continue.

The MTOs are an abomination and blight on the sport. Obviously, there is too much room for abuse in the effort to be politically correct humanitarians, or to continue for the benefit of the viewing audience and sponsors. This is professional men's tennis, where it is mano a mano, and part of the sport is that you need to be physically healthy. It's not some kid's after school competition where we worry for the children's health, or some film production where the cast of stars are excessively pampered.

How would it be in other individual sports like boxing that after 4 rounds of getting knocked around, you get a chance to go to the locker room for some meds to help those straining legs continue or get your breath back and come back 8 minutes later and deliver a knockout blow with your new found energy? Just ridiculous, ridiculous, ten times ridiculous. Eliminate them.

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The point of boxing is to injure your opponent :facepalm:
 

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The point of boxing is to injure your opponent :facepalm:
And in tennis, one tactic is pummel your opponent side to side, up and back, to tire your opponent, or make them extend themselves to their limits so they can't run anymore and they are forced to change their tactics, come in, volley, shorten points.

When you allow medical timeouts, and I don't care to whom, you are changing the sport and allowing the weaker player or the player abusing the MTO to continue.

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Dull wouldn't allow it!
 

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Dumb idea, the worst abuses need to be dealt with but removing MTOs altogether would be a disaster. Sometimes a player takes a heavy fall, or twists their ankle, or does something else that is really painful and requires medical treatment.
 

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This isn't about Fedtards or Nadal, or anyone in particular.
It's the sport and the rules of tennis that allows this to continue for any and every player to use and/or abuse.

For example, Federer shouldn't have been allowed to go off the court at Wimbledon 2012 and get his back treated. Any rubdowns, whatever, should have been done at changeover (under a towel or portable tent if necessary to hide certain body parts), and if it took longer than the time allowed for changeover , than he should have been defaulted points and games.

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