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Should Federer skip clay season from 2016?

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I mean, he so clearly way, way past his prime on slow surfaces. Since 2013 he is a oomplete nonfactor on clay.

One of his strengths in the past was to run around his backhand alot on clay and dominating with his big FH. He clearly does not have the feet to do that anymore. His FH is kind of avarage on clay nowadays, does not have the pace it once had.

His defence is awful nowadays on clay, it used to be really great. Wrongfoot Federer once and he simply wont get back to the rally.

Would it not be good for Federer to take a rest every year from Indian Wells-RG. Play RG just out of respect for tradition.

The long rest would probably do him good. He could practice for grass all this period. Also, dont think Federer is a player who needs to play all the time to get confidence, specially when losing big on clay makes confidence go down because Federer does not take it like a joke like Sampras or fastcourt specialist use to. He really spends alot of mental and phsyical energy out there to try to win hardfought matches, you can clearly see it.

So, what do you think on this matter?
 

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No because the break would be too long from competitive tennis, it's like starting again after an injury break.
 

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Yes, Federer some what altered his game, adding more aggressive net play. This won't do him any good on clay.
It is a no brainier, his fans won't ask Sampras to play all the clay tournament and RG either.


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No because the break would be too long from competitive tennis, it's like starting again after an injury break.
Sampras survived it.
 

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He just won a title?
 

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The only way he skips clay season would be if he played in February. Indoor before IW and Miami. The he could take 2 months come back for grass season freshier then everyone.

I have said the same for Rafa. Skip grass after RG and focus on HC.
 

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NO, he should't. It would totally disrupt his normal Schedule. Just because Monfils played really good in Monte Carlo (btw. he played that Way last Year in the Davis Cup against Roger too) and he lost to Kyrgios - a youngster with great Perspective in the Future - doesn't mean he should skip it. He did lost against other Players between 2003-2014 at Clay Tournaments not named Rafa Nadal or Novak Djokovic, you know (Volandri, Stepanek, Gulbis, Gasquet, Chardy, Melzer, Monfils, Wawrinka...). So it's not that uncommon for Roger.
We'll have to wait how he's playing in Paris (and maybe Rome).
 

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I agree his clay level has been much lower in later years, but still he was only one TB away from winning MC last year. He can still get good results on his day, especially if draws open up. I see no real reason not to play, but of course expectations should be limited.
 

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Yes he should. He is still a threat and one of the favourites for every hard court and grass tournament but on clay he has no chance to beat even a top ten player. He should play Miami and then skip the rest of the clay season. Then with an extra week between RG & Wimbledon, he should play two warm up tournaments before Wimbledon to somewhat make up for the points that he missed out from clay, not that he earns a lot of points on clay anyway these days.
 

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I agree his caly level has been much lower in later years, but still have was only one TB away from winning MC last year. He can still get good results on his day, especially if draws open up. I see no real reason not to play, but of course expectations should be limited.
He played too many tournaments last year but with good results. This year things have been diferent.
Hes not as sharp as he use to be ( and thats normal) And some players smell blood and play more agressive vs Federer.

If he cant get past the 2nd R of these 3 M1000 i would really be suprised.

The only draws that open up are his opponents when he has been ousted. Berdych got a MC F with no hardwork. And seems likely to have a SF here.
 

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Should Federer fans grow some fucking backbone and realize that losses are part of the game? They are absolutely the worst fanbase when their guy is facing even the slightest of adversity

Seriously, skipping a full third of the season while healthy :facepalm:

And sexybeast is usually a good poster. Still in ruins maybe get well soon
 

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I agree his clay level has been much lower in later years, but still he was only one TB away from winning MC last year. He can still get good results on his day, especially if draws open up. I see no real reason not to play, but of course expectations should be limited.
I'm fully agreeing here.


2012 was his last good Clay Performance: W (Madrid), F (Rome), SF (Roland Garros). What happened after that? Right 2013 happended. He was coming from a longer Break at Monte Carlo and lost there vs. Nishikori, and then had a good run in Rome (F lost to Rafa), but with many Ups and Down in his Matches (it was like that the whole Year after Indian Wells till US Open). In 2014 he played great in Monte Carlo (quick Erasing the Break Point Conversion vs STRONGA from my Memory). Mirka gave then birth to Twin Brothers, so the loss to Chardy is explainable (also it was windy, strange Conditions). His Loss to Gulbis in Paris was more dissappointing. He had Set Point in Set 2 but was smashing the Overhead exactly to Gulbis Side.

Yes, his Clay Level is lower nowadays, but to skip the whole Clay Season would be a Mistake.
 

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No, because:
a)It's still 600-1000 points in the rankings.
b)He'd be rusty as hell in the first matches, this could give him trouble even on grass. That match rhytm is very important.
c)He's not that bad, still top 10-20, not a Fed usual level, but it's enough to compete. He was pumped yesterday, he still cares about competing even on clay.
 

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No but he needs to get his priorities straight

prioritizing a 250 event like Istanbul above Masters 1000 in Madrid (and to the extent that he won't even play Rome because of it) is just stupid. The Masters om clay are important run up events to RG to test yourself against the best and he's just totally screwed that up this season and to some extent last season as well.
 

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No, just play a few tournaments, like Montecarlo, Madrid or Rome and French Open, and that's it. So the confidence doesn't get crushed so much after he loses in 4-5 tournaments early.
 

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He lost to Monfils in Monte Carlo who is a hard player on clay and made the semi finals. And he lost to a player in Madrid who went for broke and payed off.
He should play Rome and hopefully get some luck there, his had some bad luck on clay despite the title in turkey.
 

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No, just try to go in with an open mind and whatever happens happens. If he would play a bit more freely (he seems a bit too annoyed with his level of play sometimes, understandably..) it might actually improve his results.

Also, he just won a (pretty weak) tournament last week, and barely lost to a solid contender this week. Prime clay Fed would wipe the floor with these guys, but it's not totally terrible.
 
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