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Shap pushed nadal to his limit on clay in Rome--had 2 MPS-- which is even more impressive than doing so on HC.
You can't really compare 2009 Godal to 2021 Declinedal.
 

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Care to post your top 10 (it doesn't have to be in order). Do you think that some of that has to do with the fact that players born in the 80's are retired or nearing retirement. For example, Wawrinka looked like a talented headcase at age 25 (or so) but at age 35 he is considered a talented player. I wonder if maybe you have a biased towards liking or thinking one style of tennis is more talented than another style.
Medvedev simply has a lesser ceiling in terms of attacking capabilities - which do come in different facets (far more to it than ballbashing, of course), be that power hitting or deep topspin or sharp angles, except Medvedev's style doesn't involve either on a consistent basis, nor net play obviously. And he's evidently susceptible to knifing low slices, which must be dealt with topspin to raise the ball, which is/was a big part of his problem against Fedal but now that they're aging out there's no one on tour left with such a disciplined quality slice. As for the defence, Medvedev's is surprisingly good but not historically special and it can't be due to his size. He's very agile for a 190+cm guy but the most nimble 180 cm guys will always be better movers. I actually offer that Medvedev's best talent is his head; while prone to outbursts, overall he's got a strong tennis mind to make the best of his abilities, something the arguably more talented in terms of raw potential Zverev/Dimitrov/Shapovalov sorely lack (well, Zed/Chap's ship hasn't sailed yet but a great change in mindset is unlikely at this point; Wawrinka isn't a blueprint but a heavy outlier).

You wanted my top list for 80s-born talent - in terms of potential - here it is:
Fedalovic
Murray
Safin (even as a headcase he achieved a lot; a potent what-if)
del Potro (even with a brittle wrist he played many memorable matches; another popular what-if)
Hewitt, Roddick, Wawrinka
Cilic, Tsonga, Berdych, Coria, Söderling... some with a higher peak than others in their preferred conditions but weighed down by mentality (looking at you, Guillermo)

Medvedev is in the middle of that last group by technical ability, but with a strong discipline + sturdy body (so far no big injuries, knock on wood) + the feeble epoch dawning on us as big 3 age out, he may well be set to eclipse them all taken together by accomplishments.
 

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Sharapova more Talented not that it matters Verdasco had stronger mindset.
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And why compare just to criticize one or the other? We're learning as we see less and less Big 3/4 dominance how rare it is. Accept the fact and normal statistic that a talent like Shapo or FAA or Rublev is not going to be a sure thing for deep runs in 1000s or Grand Slams. They are going to be vulnerable and have way more volatile careers and results compared to what we have witnessed in the Golden Age. They are still very good players. We've just been spoiled.
 

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Shapovalov is way overhyped here. He is just a ballbasher without discipline or ROS.

He is like Verdasco and Janowicz or a worse lefty version of Wawrinka, only flash but no substance and no brain. Talent is nothing without consistency. Everybody top 50 is able to peak like Klizan, Brands or PHM (like they did against Nadal in the FO for exemple) by painting the lines or hitting FH like Peak Federer for one match. To do it for every match is another story. Tennis never award the low % game.

People even compared him to Federer because of his " offensive " tennis mindset (like we compared Dimitrov to Federer, calling him " Baby Federer " )

The only title he won in his career so far is a ATP 250 at Stockholm beating HC titan Krajinovic. He has done nothing except his lucky Wimbledon SF where he beat a washed-up Murray, declined RBA and king mug Kachanov.

Shapovalov wouldn't even be able to play like AO 2009 Verdasco who pushed to the limit Nadal who was at his zenith then. Prime Verdasco would have at least took a set from Djokovic in the Wimbledon SF
 

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And why compare just to criticize one or the other? We're learning as we see less and less Big 3/4 dominance how rare it is. Accept the fact and normal statistic that a talent like Shapo or FAA or Rublev is not going to be a sure thing for deep runs in 1000s or Grand Slams. They are going to be vulnerable and have way more volatile careers and results compared to what we have witnessed in the Golden Age. They are still very good players. We've just been spoiled.
I agree. This is true. 3 players reaching 20 slam titles in the same generation. This is very unlikely to happen again in the next 50 or even 100 years. We've been spoiled mightily. Shapovalov's had a lousy year, though, and part of the problem is his attitude/mindset.
 
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