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In winning a tournament without getting broken a single time. Last time this happened was 3 and half years ago, more precisely in 2008, with Federer´s win in Halle.

What a server bot. :worship:
 

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Yeah. They had to serve excellently while beating such illustrious players en route to winning those tournaments.
 

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It's such a shame he got injured just before his match with Nadull at last year's Wimbledon. I was looking forward to seeing how Nadal copes with a young Ivanisevic-like server.
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But i don´t think grass is his best surface. He doesn´t handle that well the low rebounds. I want to see him at full force at the US Open. That´s where his best chances of winning a slam are, i think.
 

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It's such a shame he got injured just before his match with Nadull at last year's Wimbledon. I was looking forward to seeing how Nadal copes with a young Ivanisevic-like server.
Nadal's dealt with him twice at Tokyo - in 2010 & 2011 - straight set wins both time. Nadal also dealt with Muller last year who was serving out of his mind for the first 2 sets & he still managed to have the composure to come through it. So this idea Nadal would have been unable to cope with Raonic at Wimbledon last year is more than a little silly...
 

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Nadal's dealt with him twice at Tokyo - in 2010 & 2011 - straight set wins both time. Nadal also dealt with Muller last year who was serving out of his mind for the first 2 sets & he still managed to have the composure to come through it. So this idea Nadal would have been unable to cope with Raonic at Wimbledon last year is more than a little silly...
It still would've been very interesting to see, Lose two tiebreaks and you're in deep trouble. Still think Nadal would've won, but he was very shaky at times during Wimbledon...
 

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Muller vs. Nadal has zero relevance to Raonic, especially this particular stat.
 

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Nadal's dealt with him twice at Tokyo - in 2010 & 2011 - straight set wins both time. Nadal also dealt with Muller last year who was serving out of his mind for the first 2 sets & he still managed to have the composure to come through it. So this idea Nadal would have been unable to cope with Raonic at Wimbledon last year is more than a little silly...
Let´s get the facts straight. Nadal faced in 2010 a Raonic that had yed to implode in the circuit. And in 2011 he faced a Raonic, that only had played 2 matches (Davis cup round and first round of Tokyo) after that nasty hip injury. And yet, he was still competitive.

So i really don´t understand how come those two defeats really explain what Nadal would have done to Raonic, since those come from really differente conditions, as of we knew of last year´s. And seriously, were you really expecting that much from a guy that two weeks ago had stepped for the first time on a grass court? I wasn´t.

And putting Muller and Raonic on the same picture is, let´s be honest, absurd. Raonic is clutch, Muller is a choker. He showed very well that feature in that WImbledon match.
 

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Yeah. They had to serve excellently while beating such illustrious players en route to winning those tournaments.
:rolleyes: Djokovic wouldnt have won either tournament without dropping serve once:rolleyes:

Its a great achievement to do this at any level, of course it is likely possible only at the 250 level but to actually not be broken by five opponents even once, it is something.
 

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The days when Federer was still a force on grass.:awww:
Federer is still the man to beat on true grass really. The grass in Halle is fast and low bouncing, as it should be and Federer has a phenomenal record there for a reason. And if you watching the DC tie between Aus and Sui last september, you will know Federer is still pretty darn good on real grass. He made the transition from HC to grass in like 2 days and won both rubbers playing on very fast grass
 

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Federer is still the man to beat on true grass really. The grass in Halle is fast and low bouncing, as it should be and Federer has a phenomenal record there for a reason. And if you watching the DC tie between Aus and Sui last september, you will know Federer is still pretty darn good on real grass. He made the transition from HC to grass in like 2 days and won both rubbers playing on very fast grass
Losses in the QF of Wimbledon to Berdych and Tsonga make you wonder...
 

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:rolleyes: Djokovic wouldnt have won either tournament without dropping serve once:rolleyes:

Its a great achievement to do this at any level, of course it is likely possible only at the 250 level but to actually not be broken by five opponents even once, it is something.
Djokovic has nothing to do with this.


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His 2 losses to Nadal are nothing that can tell us. In 2010 he was not the same player and last year he was after injury... no practice, stamina and even his serve wasn´t good enough without real match practice. And last year Wimbledon, it is big IF, but Raonic chances would be much much higher than Muller´s in that match. Raonic serve is much better, Muller didn´t have such hard-fast serve his serve is mostly effective, because he is lefty and since Rafa is lefty too using slice to his FH isn´t the same like Raonic´s 210-220bombs to Rafa´s BH or his super fast slice serve to Rafa´s BH- even Federer realized this is chance to get Rafa in trouble. So if Muller managed to go to 2 TB´s and both were very close, Raonic with better serve and in this case rightie advantage could have won that 2TB´s but this is big IF.
 

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:rolleyes: Djokovic wouldnt have won either tournament without dropping serve once:rolleyes:

Its a great achievement to do this at any level, of course it is likely possible only at the 250 level but to actually not be broken by five opponents even once, it is something.
Djokovic would've lost serve probably in every match, he's a return based player. He would probably lose more games on serve than on return.
 
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