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1. Novak Djokovic - 22.05.1987
6. Kei Nishikori - 29.12.1989
12. Milos Raonic - 27.12.1990
14. Dominic Thiem - 03.09.1993
26. Nick Kyrgios - 27.04.1995
46. Borna Coric - 14.11.1996
52. Alexander Zverev - 20.04.1997
81. Taylor Fritz - 28.10.1997 - TOP 100
167. Frances Tiafoe - 20.01.1998
232. Duckhee Lee - 29.05.1998
522. Stefanos Tsitsipas - 12.08.1998
551. Denis Shapovalov - 15.04.1999 - JUST IN - up 224 places from last week - SF 50,000 Drummondville, Canada
712. Felix Auger Aliassime - 08.08.2000
946. Rayane Roumane - 11.09.2000
1336. Nick Hardt - 20.09.2000
1881. Nicolas Alvarez Varona - 18.05.2001- the youngest player ranked


Mikael Ymer out,

Born in 2000: 712, 946, 1336, 1770, 1881 - 5 players
Born in 2001: 1881 - 1 player
 

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April 11th

1. Novak Djokovic - 22.05.1987
6. Kei Nishikori - 29.12.1989
12. Milos Raonic - 27.12.1990
14. Dominic Thiem - 03.09.1993
20. Nick Kyrgios - 27.04.1995
42. Borna Coric - 14.11.1996
54. Alexander Zverev - 20.04.1997
69. Taylor Fritz - 28.10.1997
172. Frances Tiafoe - 20.01.1998
211. Duckhee Lee - 29.05.1998
532. Stefanos Tsitsipas - 12.08.1998
549. Denis Shapovalov - 15.04.1999
713. Felix Auger Aliassime - 08.08.2000
954. Rayane Roumane - 11.09.2000
1330. Nick Hardt - 20.09.2000
1868. Nicolas Alvarez Varona - 18.05.2001- the youngest player ranked

So basically no change.
 

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April 11th

1. Novak Djokovic - 22.05.1987
6. Kei Nishikori - 29.12.1989
12. Milos Raonic - 27.12.1990
14. Dominic Thiem - 03.09.1993
20. Nick Kyrgios - 27.04.1995
42. Borna Coric - 14.11.1996
54. Alexander Zverev - 20.04.1997
69. Taylor Fritz - 28.10.1997
172. Frances Tiafoe - 20.01.1998
211. Duckhee Lee - 29.05.1998
532. Stefanos Tsitsipas - 12.08.1998
549. Denis Shapovalov - 15.04.1999
713. Felix Auger Aliassime - 08.08.2000
954. Rayane Roumane - 11.09.2000
1330. Nick Hardt - 20.09.2000
1868. Nicolas Alvarez Varona - 18.05.2001- the youngest player ranked

So basically no change.
Shapovalov will surpass Tsitsipas in the next rankings (18.04).
 

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With Zverev's win today, Coric is out (it might be only for a couple of weeks, if Borna does better than Alex at RG).
 

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This is one of my favorite threads (bit of a statistics geek, I admit) and nobody is updating it. So I'll give it a try:

1381 Chun Hsin Tseng 15 TPE 8.8.2001
1305 Sergey Fomin 16 UZB 1.2.2001
1034 Rudolf Molleker 16 GER 26.10.2000
537 Auger Aliassime 16 CAN 8.8.2000
500 Corentin Moutet 17 FRA 19.4.1999
251 D.Shapovalov 17 CAN 15.4.1999
248 Alex De Minaur 17 AUS 17.2.1999
215 Casper Ruud 18 NOR 22.12.1998
201 St. Tsitsipas 18 GRE 12.8.1998
136 Duckhee Lee 18 KOR 29.5.1998
121 Stefan Kozlov 19 USA 1.2.1998
99 Frances Tiafoe 19 USA 20.1.1998
92 Taylor Fritz 19 USA 28.10.1997
21 Alex Zverev 19 GER 20.4.1997
15 Nick Kyrgios 21 AUS 27.4.1995
8 Dominic Thiem 23 AUT 3.9.1993
4 Milos Raonic 26 CAN 27.12.1990
2 Novak Djokovic 29 SRB 22.5.1987
1 Andy Murray 29 GBR 15.5.1987


Date: 2016/01/31 - all preliminary live rankings from Slasher's table.
What can change this week - Tiafoe might kick Fritz out (in the official rankings yesterday he was actually 1 place above him), if he scores 9 points more than him in Dallas.

Who's in, compared to last year (ranked 500 or higher) - Moutet, De Minaur, Ruud, Kozlov, Murray:)grin2:)
Who's out - Fritz (on the brink of now, and WAS out - see above), Coric (since 18.05.2016, already noted by me), Nishikori.
 

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I can't see why anyone save Zverev is being hyped. He has 4 years to jump up 13 spots in the rankings.
 

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I can't see why anyone save Zverev is being hyped. He has 4 years to jump up 13 spots in the rankings.
I guess what you mean is, to match what Thiem's done so far.
If I were Zverev, I'd be a bit more ambitious, given that in 4 years time at least 2 of the big 4 won't be in Top 8 (not so bold prediction by me) and nobody from their two generations would be either. Then comes GenUseless, I doubt that all four of Raonic, Nishikori, Dimitrov and Goffin will be consistently better than Alex. GenNext - the best ones currently are Thiem, Kyrgios and Pouille. Thiem will most probably continue to have the upper hand on clay but nowhere else also his gamestyle will take his toll. Kyrgios is a big question mark, he has the game to beat Zverev but is a headcase and not motivated.
Pouille is an up-and-down player, in the past 52 weeks he's 16-15 vs. higher-ranked opponents, 5-7 after he entered Top 50. I'm not convinced.

So, all in all, if it's to be expected Zverev to go only up from here, he should be striving to be Top 4 in 4 years, not top 8:) Top 8 would be the goal for end of 2018 latest, I think.
 

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I wonder since when is Federer older than everybody ranked higher than him ? February 2004 ?

Edit : I forgot that Roddick is younger than him, he's retired since so long. Must be somewhere near the end of 2003. Just checked that Juanqui is older than Federer.
 

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And Fritz kept his place with a resounding victory over Rampras, Tiafoe lost. Will try to update it more often, with Slasher's wonderful new rankings' site.
 

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The last time Federer was ranked behind an older player was November 17th of 2003. He's been the oldest highest ranked player for 13 years.

Probably the only competitor would be Jimmy Connors. From 1974 to 1987 would be 13 years, so even with Connors, we'd be coming up to 1988 or so in his career.
 

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^if I didn't overlook something Connors held that position all the way till October 1990 so Federer needs 2 more years to break this record (he is basically guaranteed to hold this posotion till the next AO so I don't count this)
 

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Excel updates from Slasher are suspended, I'll update here when there is sorting functionality added on the new site.
 

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As of 06/02/2017, preliminary rankings (based on the excellent Rankings'site of @Slasher1985):

1381 Chun Hsin Tseng 15 TPE 8.8.2001

1304 Sergey Fomin 16 UZB 1.2.2001

1035 Rudolf Molleker 16 GER 26.10.2000

514 Auger Aliassime 16 CAN 8.8.2000

500 Corentin Moutet 17 FRA 19.4.1999

251 D.Shapovalov 17 CAN 15.4.1999

247 Alex De Minaur 17 AUS 17.2.1999

215 Casper Ruud 18 NOR 22.12.1998

200 St. Tsitsipas 18 GRE 12.8.1998

133 Duckhee Lee 18 KOR 29.5.1998

118 Stefan Kozlov 19 USA 1.2.1998

89 Frances Tiafoe 19 USA 20.1.1998

21 Alex Zverev 19 GER 20.4.1997

15 Nick Kyrgios 21 AUS 27.4.1995

8 Dominic Thiem 23 AUT 3.9.1993

4 Milos Raonic 26 CAN 27.12.1990

2 Novak Djokovic 29 SRB 22.5.1987

1 Andy Murray 29 GBR 15.5.1987


Fritz is definitely out (and out of Top 100 for the first time in a year) because he can reach a maximum of 586 this week and Tiafoe is at 605. "Honorable" mention of Shapovalov, who made the headlines but not in a good way:)
 

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1381 Chun Hsin Tseng 15 TPE 8.8.2001
1304 Sergey Fomin 16 UZB 1.2.2001
1035 Rudolf Molleker 16 GER 26.10.2000
515 Auger Aliassime 16 CAN 8.8.2000
502 Corentin Moutet 17 RA 19.4.1999
256 D. Shapovalov 17 CAN 15.4.1999
245 Alex De Minaur 17 AUS 17.2.1999
201 Casper Ruud 18 NOR 22.12.1998
136 Duckhee Lee 18 KOR 29.5.1998
120 Stefan Kozlov 19 USA 1.2.1998
91 Frances Tiafoe 19 USA 20.1.1998
18 Alex Zverev 19 GER 20.4.1997
15 Nick Kyrgios 21 AUS 27.4.1995
8 Dominic Thiem 23 AUT 3.9.1993
4 Milos Raonic 26 CAN 27.12.1990
2 Novak Djokovic 29 SRB 22.5.1987
1 Andy Murray 29 GBR 15.5.1987


Changes: Tsitsipas is out because of Casper Ruud's run in Budapest. Stefanos was given a WC to Rotterdam MD though and if he (however unlikely that might be) beats Tsonga, he'll move many places up and will be back above the Norwegian again.
Edit: Tsitsipas lost, however, Ruud lost 18 points this week (from his Mallorca futures win last year) and fell behind.
 

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1377 Chun Hsin Tseng 15 TPE 8.8.2001
1300 Sergey Fomin 16 UZB 1.2.2001
1036 Rudolf Molleker 16 GER 26.10.2000
514 Auger Aliassime 16 CAN 8.8.2000
441 Corentin Moutet 17 FRA 19.4.1999
255 D. Shapovalov 17 CAN 15.4.1999
244 Alex De Minaur 18 AUS 17.2.1999
208 Casper Ruud 18 NOR 22.12.1998
205 Stef. Tsitsipas 18 GRE 12.8.1998
135 Duckhee Lee 18 KOR 29.5.1998
115 Stefan Kozlov 19 USA 1.2.1998
90 Frances Tiafoe 19 USA 20.1.1998
18 Alex Zverev 19 GER 20.4.1997
16 Nick Kyrgios 21 AUS 27.4.1995
8 Dominic Thiem 23 AUT 3.9.1993
4 Milos Raonic 26 CAN 27.12.1990
2 Novak Djokovic 29 SRB 22.5.1987
1 Andy Murray 29 GBR 15.5.1987


No significant changes, Tsitsipas is back, Moutet jumps 61 places higher because of reaching Cherbourg CHAL QF.
 

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1373 Chun Hsin Tseng 15 TPE 8.8.2001
1301 Sergey Fomin 16 UZB 1.2.2001
1034 Rudolf Molleker 16 GER 26.10.2000
511 Auger Aliassime 16 CAN 8.8.2000
440 Corentin Moutet 17 FRA 19.4.1999
252 D. Shapovalov 17 CAN 15.4.1999
133 Casper Ruud 18 NOR 22.12.1998
113 Stefan Kozlov 19 USA 1.2.1998
86 Frances Tiafoe 19 USA 20.1.1998
20 Alex Zverev 19 GER 20.4.1997
17 Nick Kyrgios 21 AUS 27.4.1995
15 Lucas Pouille 23 FRA 23.2.1994
9 Dominic Thiem 23 AUT 3.9.1993
4 Milos Raonic 26 CAN 27.12.1990
2 Novak Djokovic 29 SRB 22.5.1987
1 Andy Murray 29 GBR 15.5.1987


Changes:

Out:
De Minaur - drops points from a futures F the previous year and is passed by the 2-months younger Shapovalov
Tsitsipas and Duckhee Lee - victims of Ruud's incredible Rio run (75 places up).

In: Pouille - gained 130 points with reaching Marseille F and at the same time Kyrgios lost 90 points net

To watch this week:

Tiafoe and Kozlov qualified for the MD in Acapulco and Ruud got SE for Sao Paulo. Kyrgios is also playing in Mexico and Pouille - in Dubai.
 

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1373 Chun Hsin Tseng 15 TPE 8.8.2001
1301 Sergey Fomin 16 UZB 1.2.2001
1035 Rudolf Molleker 16 GER 26.10.2000
511 Auger Aliassime 16 CAN 8.8.2000
440 Corentin Moutet 17 FRA 19.4.1999
253 D. Shapovalov 17 CAN 15.4.1999
128 Casper Ruud 18 NOR 22.12.1998
116 Stefan Kozlov 19 USA 1.2.1998
86 Frances Tiafoe 19 USA 20.1.1998
20 Alex Zverev 19 GER 20.4.1997
16 Nick Kyrgios 21 AUS 27.4.1995
15 Lucas Pouille 23 FRA 23.2.1994
9 Dominic Thiem 23 AUT 3.9.1993
4 Milos Raonic 26 CAN 27.12.1990
2 Novak Djokovic 29 SRB 22.5.1987
1 Andy Murray 29 GBR 15.5.1987


Nobody drops out or enters, minor changes in the rankings of some of the players. Whom to watch this week - Tiafoe, Kozlov and Fritz with WC's for Indian Wells, Kyrgios and Pouille also continue to fight it out, Ruud is playing the challenger in Santiago (maybe he wasn't ranked high enough before the IW deadline?) but is listed among the qualifiers in Miami.

Edit: Nishikori will enter next week, no matter what, because of Milos' withdrawal from IW where he loses 600 points.
 

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Official rankings after IW:

1. Andy Murray - 15.05.1987
2. Novak Djokovic - 22.05.1987
4. Kei Nishikori - 29.12.1989
5. Milos Raonic - 27.12.1990
8. Dominic Thiem - 03.09.1993
15. Lucas Pouille - 23.02.1994
16. Nick Kyrgios - 27.04.1995
20. Alexander Zverev - 20.04.1997
101. Frances Tiafoe - 20.01.1998
128. Casper Ruud - 22.12.1998
194. Denis Shapovalov - 15.04.1999
374. Felix Auger Aliassime - 08.08.2000
943. Rudolf Molleker - 26.10.2000
1294. Sergey Fomin - 01.02.2001
1365. Chun Hsin Tseng - 08.08.2001
 

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Official rankings after IW:

1. Andy Murray - 15.05.1987
2. Novak Djokovic - 22.05.1987
4. Kei Nishikori - 29.12.1989
5. Milos Raonic - 27.12.1990
8. Dominic Thiem - 03.09.1993
15. Lucas Pouille - 23.02.1994
16. Nick Kyrgios - 27.04.1995
20. Alexander Zverev - 20.04.1997
101. Frances Tiafoe - 20.01.1998
128. Casper Ruud - 22.12.1998
194. Denis Shapovalov - 15.04.1999
374. Felix Auger Aliassime - 08.08.2000
943. Rudolf Molleker - 26.10.2000
1294. Sergey Fomin - 01.02.2001
1365. Chun Hsin Tseng - 08.08.2001
Shapovalov with a 25k and his first Challenger 50k win to move up 59 spots, and Felix with his own 25k win to move up 137 spots and take out Moutet. All at Canadian stops, it was a great run for the Canadian teenagers. Very enjoyable.
 
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