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Players band together to fight new doubles rules
ATP stars plan to plead case to world media
By Charles Bricker
Staff Writer
August 31, 2005

NEW YORK · You couldn't call it a revolution ... yet. But the ATP's doubles players appear to be bordering on rebellion over the radical new scoring rules that are scheduled to go into place after the U.S. Open and they're going to plead their case as a group on Friday.

Either today or Thursday, several high-profile players, including the Bryan twins of the United States, Mark Knowles of the Bahamas and Jonas Bjorkman of Sweden, who is one of the elder statesmen on the tour, singles and doubles, will announce a press conference to make their complaints heard.

What better stage than New York City, with approximately 1,000 media representatives from all over the world and almost every high-ranking ATP official in town?

Doubles players have complained about the changes individually, but this is the first time they've come together as a group to show their solidarity.

Beginning with tournaments at Bucharest and Beijing, doubles matches are to be dramatically shortened in time by playing no-ad (first one to four points with the receiving team choosing ad or deuce court for the serve on the seventh point) and tiebreaks at 4-4. In addition, if sets are one-all, a super tiebreak (to 10) will be played.

Could there be legal action threatened at this meeting? Wayne Bryan, father of twins Bob and Mike Bryan, wouldn't give a direct response.

But it is more likely that the players are going to demand the ATP rescind the rules changes and commit to spending more effort and money promoting doubles at tournaments.


Charles Bricker can be reached at [email protected].

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Are you serious about these new rules? They are ridiculous. No wonder they are complaining.
I have no problems with a super tiebreak on the senior tour, but in a doubles match, give me a break jezus
 

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It's time these doubles players stopped cashing in from the success of the singles players to make their living and make their own tournaments. Let's see how many people go to see doubles specialists. I'm guessing they'd be making $50 per match.
 

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uNIVERSE mAN said:
It's time these doubles players stopped cashing in from the success of the singles players to make their living and make their own tournaments. Let's see how many people go to see doubles specialists. I'm guessing they'd be making $50 per match.
I agree. I've said this time and time again. Doubles players are either 2nd rate singles players like Bjorkman, or people who can't hack it in the singles game at all, like the Bryans. I think they should stop whining, and be grateful that the ATP bothers to keep them around at all.
 

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No matter how much you dislike doubles tennis, the rules still stuck

When I was playing tournaments under 14 they also had the deuce rule, who ever wins the point wins the game

That stupid rule has cost me a few matches
 

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No matter how much you dislike doubles tennis, the rules still stuck

When I was playing tournaments under 14 they also had the deuce rule, who ever wins the point wins the game

That stupid rule has cost me a few matches
Of course it was the rule. It certainly had nothing to do with your inability to win the game point.
 

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Of course it was the rule. It certainly had nothing to do with your inability to win the game point.
When you come back from 5-0 to 5-4 and you end up at 40-40 you feel rigged if you lose that point

I would lose most points at 40-40 back than, but I usually play very well in long games with a lot of deuces

The rule sucks
 

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:lol: The usual doubles hater idiots in this thread, I see..

:worship: Good lads for standing up :banana:!
 

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seleshfan, mistaflava, universeman - I have finally brought myself to 'appreciate' and 'understand' your views. However, if you are so offended and upset by doubles, just ignore it. Stay away from the threads, keep your comments to yourself, and don't allow yourself to be near doubles-related material. Please!

The 'minority' of us that can't-get-enough naturally love it and we feel strongly that it shouldn't be changed. As it has been proven, it is opinion - so why should this happen to doubles? And not singles. At the end of the day, it will always been individuals' opinions, never fact. :)
 
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Jonas was top 10 and great doubles player. Kafelnikov won French open singles and doubles the same year. None of them were bad at singles nor second players.
It's simply shameful what ATP wants to do with doubles, these players play tennis and have to travel around the world.
As it sucks why don't they erase doubles from Davis Cup as well, a whole day just to see 2 teams that usually don't play together...
I hope doubles remain the same :worship:
 
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Jonas was top 10 and great doubles player. Kafelnikov won French open singles and doubles the same year. None of them were bad at singles nor second players.
It's simply shameful what ATP wants to do with doubles, these players play tennis and have to travel around the world.
As it sucks why don't they erase doubles from Davis Cup as well, a whole day just to see 2 teams that usually don't play together...
I hope doubles remain the same :worship:
:worship: YOU LEGEND! :hatoff: :D
 

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some of the time I feel like its the predominantly singles players themselves who give a bad name to doubles
consider nadal. as soon as he goes very deep in montreal, what does he do? Of course withdraw from doubles. roddick recently took an ambivalent stand but said he would really prefer not to play doubles except for fun
Federer plays it so that he can get back into his groove (e.g., Cincinnati) or to prepare for DC.

It will be interesting to see if these doubles players, who have far less clout on the ATP tour than singles players, can actually do anything to prevent these changes. Basically, they don't want their $ going down, but at the same time they are not able to bring in much $. That does seem out of balance
 

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I'm sick of hearing the ATP excuse that people don't watch doubles so they have to destroy the doubles game to fix that problem. How about showing the people doubles and maybe the problem will fix itself. I just watched the USA TV coverage for today. The Bryans (the #1 USA team)were playing on the grandstand court which obviously has cameras in place. And unless they showed a few seconds while I was in the bathroom, the network never bothered to flip over there for any coverage at all. And they never even mentioned the match result on their session wrap-up when they went off the air. So how is anyone other than a diehard who is following online supposed to support doubles? If they acknowledged the doubles games as real matches, people would pay attention.
 

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seleshfan, mistaflava, universeman - I have finally brought myself to 'appreciate' and 'understand' your views.
Wow, at 2:26 I'm an idiot, and at 2:45 you've come to appreciate my idiotic views. Maybe, by sometime tomorrow, you'll worship me for the genius that I am. :) No seriously, I appreciate your more civil 2nd response, I'll take discussion over mindless insults any day. Now to respond to your post.
However, if you are so offended and upset by doubles, just ignore it.
I do. I have never attended a professional doubles match, nor would I ever pay to see one, unless it featured a top singles player.
Stay away from the threads, keep your comments to yourself, and don't allow yourself to be near doubles-related material. Please!
Hello? This is a discussion board. You should be able to get both sides of the discussion don't you think? I could just as easily tell you, if you don't like the idiotic trolls that hate doubles, then stay away from the doubles threads, because you know they'll be there. But in actuality, I think it's good to have both sides, the lovers and the hatas.
The 'minority' of us that can't-get-enough naturally love it and we feel strongly that it shouldn't be changed. As it has been proven, it is opinion - so why should this happen to doubles? And not singles. At the end of the day, it will always been individuals' opinions, never fact. :)
Precisely. So why should your opinions be the only ones expressed?
 
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