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Who would win? Like Bruguera 1993 against Federer 2006?

It's Bruguera, without contest. Sure Federer would fight like crazy (as against Nadal :D), but Bruguera would put him on his place easily.
Like in 3 easy sets: 6-3, 6-2, 6-1 :angel:
 

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Bruguera by a landslide in 3 easy sets 6-0, 6-3, 6-1.
 

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Peak Federer beats anyone even in zero gravity.
 

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Different technology makes this one hard to really analyse. Although Bruguera is theoretically a very bad match-up for RF.
 

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Federer would anally abuse Bruguera.

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Not sure if you are serious or not. Federer is the best clay player ever not named Nadal, while Bruguera is not even a top 10.
Bruguera is a Nadal-esque player though. Heavy spin off the forehand, backhand solid at best, quick, brick wall defence and strong passing shots on slow courts. Wouldn't be an ideal opponent for Federer.

Bruguera is surely top 10- if Nadal, Borg, Guga, Lendl, Wilander are in there, who else would you have? Federer, Courier...? Surely Sergi gets in.
 

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Bruguera is a Nadal-esque player though. Heavy spin off the forehand, backhand solid at best, quick, brick wall defence and strong passing shots on slow courts. Wouldn't be an ideal opponent for Federer.

Bruguera is surely top 10- if Nadal, Borg, Guga, Lendl, Wilander are in there, who else would you have? Federer, Courier...? Surely Sergi gets in.
you are truly an unbiased analyst extraordinaire
Though someone as young as Th. Ch. surely did not watch back then Bruguera and other clay greats in the '90s.
He could have been 1-3 years old when Sergi won RG for the first time. :haha:
 

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Not sure if you are serious or not. Federer is the best clay player ever not named Nadal, while Bruguera is not even a top 10.
:spit:

Nevertheless, Federer would beat Bruguera.
 

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Bruguera is a Nadal-esque player though. Heavy spin off the forehand, backhand solid at best, quick, brick wall defence and strong passing shots on slow courts. Wouldn't be an ideal opponent for Federer.

Bruguera is surely top 10- if Nadal, Borg, Guga, Lendl, Wilander are in there, who else would you have? Federer, Courier...? Surely Sergi gets in.
#10 is between Bruguera and Courier on my list.

1. Nadal
2. Borg
3. Lendl
4. Kuerten
5. Wilander
6. Muster
7. Vilas
8. Federer
9. Djokovic
10. Bruguera/Courier
 

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you are truly an unbiased analyst extraordinaire
Though someone as young as Th. Ch. surely did not watch back then Bruguera and other clay greats in the '90s.
He could have been 1-3 years old when Sergi won RG for the first time. :haha:
He's deffo older than me :p Thierry Champion the player was before my time for sure :lol:
 

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He's deffo older than me :p Thierry Champion the player was before my time for sure :lol:
The player yes, the guy behind this nick no. He is a student, just another hipster Fedtard.
 

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Not sure if you are serious or not. Federer is the best clay player ever not named Nadal, while Bruguera is not even a top 10.
Still butthurt about that triple bagel I see? :devil:

Seriously though, I think the clay champions from the 90s are vastly overrated. They shone easily because back then the best players focused on more rewarding fast surfaces, it was an era of "specialist" in which whatever mug who had learnt the game on clay could school a Top 10 clueless on the dirt. But since the early 00's everybody has learnt to play on clay, so it's much more competitive. In his early days Fed could go toe to toe with the specialists (his first M1000 was on clay after all), he just didn't have the consistency he developed in the Nadal era. So overall I think he would take this. Maybe in 5 though, the match-up issue is real.
 

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Bruguera is a Nadal-esque player though. Heavy spin off the forehand, backhand solid at best, quick, brick wall defence and strong passing shots on slow courts. Wouldn't be an ideal opponent for Federer.

Bruguera is surely top 10- if Nadal, Borg, Guga, Lendl, Wilander are in there, who else would you have? Federer, Courier...? Surely Sergi gets in.
Here is your top 10:

1. Nadal
2. Federer
3. Borg
4. Lendl
5. Kuerten
6. Wilander
7. Muster
8. Vilas
9. Agassi
10. Courier

You're welcome.
 

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I think at his best Bruguera might be even a better shotmaker than Nadal (he had some great matches with Sampras, one of the best being on carpet) while Nadal has better movement, mental strength and stamina. Quite similar players in style overall.

I consider Fed to be one of the best (if not the best in the Open Era) but I think people overrate his best level on clay, he has amazing consistency on the surface (5 FO finals, 4 of them in a row speak for themselves) and has certainly put on some great performances but he never pushed Nadal to 5 sets at the FO while I think guys like Guga and Bruguera could have (not 2008 Nadal obviously but say 2005 or 2006 yes), of course there's the match-up issue but I don't think it's just that.

In short, I consider peak Fed to be about the same level as peak Agassi and Courier on clay while I'd put him below Bruguera and Guga in that regard. In terms of consistency (not to be underestimated/downplayed, it's an important factor) he's the best of that bunch.
 

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can't understand why ppl would put Wilander ahead of Muster, Agassi, Courier and the likes :confused:

On my list he's right before Noah and right after Chang, somewhere near the 20th mark...

Anyways, Sergi was a bit of a fluke, much better than Puerta, Korda and Gaudio obviosuly, but incomparable to the real big ones on the surface. Just my humble opinion and i understand why there would be many disagreeing with me, but i can't help it.

Imo he took advantage of a real weak era and just ground his way to 2 Slams out of nowhere.

So, Fed in 3, just no contest.

Ferrer is a ton better than Sergi was.
 
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