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Just heard about this terrible attack on a school in Pakistan killing 120 plus children. Most of them were aged 9-14. Probably an act of the Taliban.

Still can't believe that humans be so cruel to commit this utter disgusting and cowardly act. Feel so sorry for those innocent souls and their parents and close ones. My Pakistani bros and sisters please be safe :sad:
 

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News link: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30491435

I saw that in the morning. Absolutely sickening stuff. We need to find away to stop these thugs and make education something everyone can achieve. Honestly, my respect for the children in these countries keeps going up, if they were willing to attend school while being threatened by these creeps, and it just motivates me further to find a solution to this.
 

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Very sad.. Those disgusting terrorists need world effort joined by all countries.. They must be finished..
 

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reading that article, hearing some of the accounts of survivors..it makes me so sad. i want to hurl imk so disgusted. and reading the article it sounds like this was done as an act of revenge against the army which makes it worse.

these are not people, they are monsters. sadly i see no end to this, not any time in the near future anyway.

i want to know how anything that does this thinks its okay, i mean how do you justify it?.
 

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Cowardly acts of terrorism by hurting innocent civilians, women, children can NEVER be justified. These acts prove that humans have still not evolved. I spit on the faces of these cowards thinking they are doing it for their "God". Oh...some are doing it for revenge? Revenge for what? Revenge by brutally killing kids and women who have done nothing to you?? The whole sane world hates these cowards and the day these disgraces are all dead, humans will breathe fresher air.
 

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Holy fucking shit.

141 students...humanity reaches another low.

I don't understand how ANYONE could be so brainwashed that they felt a need to massacre children? I mean, what the hell is their motive? IT just makes no sense. And it's not exactly an anomaly either. Boko Haram does this stuff on a monthly basis.

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When the fuck are the normal Muslims going to band together and forcefully destroy these terrorist groups? These groups are not exactly in hiding, and far from the majority. Disgusting inaction.
Holy fucking shit.

141 students...humanity reaches another low.

I don't understand how ANYONE could be so brainwashed that they felt a need to massacre children? I mean, what the hell is their motive? IT just makes no sense. And it's not exactly an anomaly either. Boko Haram does this stuff on a monthly basis.

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These guys are a disgrace to humanity. No point in searching for their motive. Their one motive is to create destruction and thus be "relevant". Another one might be that be doing all these inhuman acts they are doing service to their "God". Yes- By murdering God's innocent children they are doing service to their "God".

I spit on everyone who actually find even 0.00001 % sense or justice in what these terrorists do. The only thing they "achieve" by their acts is making this World a far worse place to live.
 

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I can almost picture the scenes in my head. Keep playing it over and over. Literally cried. Children? And what do these animals who did this think will happen, god will forgive them? Is this what they really think? They will rot in hell! They will never have peace, not in a dozen lifetimes so I hope they're ready to suffer agony!

I condemn this barbaric act and my heart weeps for them but if it was indeed an act of vengeance and not some disgusting sacrifice as some animals have put it, they could've fought with the armed personnel.

But why children? Innocent children who are in a golden period in their lives. How can humans be so brutal. We're truly the WORST species.

I feel ashamed to be a human today.
 

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I can almost picture the scenes in my head. Keep playing it over and over. Literally cried. Children? And what do these animals who did this think will happen, god will forgive them? Is this what they really think? They will rot in hell! They will never have peace, not in a dozen lifetimes so I hope they're ready to suffer agony!

I condemn this barbaric act and my heart weeps for them but if it was indeed an act of vengeance and not some disgusting sacrifice as some animals have put it, they could've fought with the armed personnel.

But why children? Innocent children who are in a golden period in their lives. How can humans be so brutal. We're truly the WORST species.

I feel ashamed to be a human today.
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Religion. :eek:

Failed experiment. :haha:

Absolute neurotrainwreck. :facepalm:
True religious people shouldn't never harm anyone, and normally they really don't hurt anyone. Or is praying for oneself a torture for others yet?

I'm a catholic theology student and there's no passage in the Koran trying to legitimate violence; it's just their creepy surah-interpretation of this one Islamic school pretending persons, who don't believe in rubbish like 'kufr should be murdered', will one day get murdered too, because these 'innocent' and human [emphasized] beings aligned with infidels. There's no theological answer to justify these acts and these have to be despised, problem is terrorists have too much power and influence on people in these countries.
 

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True religious people shouldn't never harm anyone, and normally they really don't hurt anyone. Or is praying for oneself a torture for others yet?

I'm a catholic theology student and there's no passage in the Koran trying to legitimate violence; it's just their creepy surah-interpretation of this one Islamic school pretending persons, who don't believe in rubbish like 'kufr should be murdered', will one day get murdered too, because these 'innocent' and human [emphasized] beings aligned with infidels. There's no theological answer to justify these acts and these have to be despised, problem is terrorists have too much power and influence on people in these countries.
The true evil isn't the terrorism. It's the moderates who normalise theistic speech into societies. It's the moderates who tell their children how to think in regards to religion. It's the fanaticism. How can you love your "god" more than your parents? That's evil. There's scientific proof that your parents created you, and not some old guy in the clouds.

The thing about terrorists is that we know their thought patterns are fucked beyond belief and condemn their actions, but nobody calls somebody unusual when they thank "god" for their fortunes, yet blame somebody else for their failures. That's cognitive failure right there. All of the abrahamic religions are arguments of authority, and the people who use religion to explain the universe are using an argument from ignorance. It's evil to consider anthropoids inherently superior lifeforms to turtles, just because some bronze age book says so. We are all animals - though we happen to be far more intelligent than the non-human animals.

Religion is a reason people do what they ordinarily would not do because of moral values, and religion is a reason why people believe what they ordinarily would not believe because of logic and rationality. Because of the implied authority. Now that's evil.


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So after a long time I got sick (and got sick again -.- ) I hope I can reply to this in the manner of a theologian because there were many things which are totally wrong resp. blind borrowed. I try to write not too much and gonna pick up the ones which annoy me the most.

The true evil isn't the terrorism. It's the moderates who normalise theistic speech into societies.
A 'true evil' is not detectable here on earth, there are many factors influencing on persons' acting, just like people trying to legitimate their violence with the name of God. So the first sentence can't be philosphically argued because - first of all - 'the true evil' is a non-existing dualistic way of thinking which includes religious (polytheistic) thoughts already. Satan was many a time an inferior 'assistant' in the tradition of the book of Job and no other negative force has the power to oppose God (monotheistic traditional line). Because of that the true evil comes less from a 'theistic manner of speech', but more from bad anthropogenic influences on humans themselves. In a word: Jesus Christ never utilized violence as an option to realize aims (just like terrorists want to do to increase their power [to gain more money, ...]), Jesus fulfilled the laws of Moses with - love. Totally diametral to the way of thinking terrorists wanted to teach.

Like the Koran doesn't allow the homicides at the beginning, but to conquer their wanted territories in the 8th and 9th century many things have been changed in the Koran, if you see the process of the Koran in the questioning and criteriological research.

and the people who use religion to explain the universe are using an argument from ignorance.
The creation of the world in Genesis is written in a mythological narrative style and it's even more difficult because the ancient Hebrew is a world apart, can not be totally correctly translated because we are not totally sure what a significant term can mean (in the world of today and in the cultural thinking of many thousands years before Christ). So trying to explain the universe with religion is therefold not an ignorant argument, it's another argument. The Bible does not explain how the world works, otherwise we could close CERN and our will to discover from the universe should be vanished. And besides the evangelical Christs, many others would never try to convince someone that the world has been created in seven days. It's a mythological and metaphorical understanding of the world with the stress, e.g. on water; to these dates it was in many parts of the world detectable water was the arché of the whole materialism and Thales of Miletus for example tried to inset this thinking in his vestigial metaphyisics.

It's evil to consider anthropoids inherently superior lifeforms to turtles, just because some bronze age book says so. We are all animals - though we happen to be far more intelligent than the non-human animals.
This was the hierarchy in paradise, lions and gazelles live peacefully quasi hand-in-hand and the thing is it should be a 'transcendent imagination', others would say utopia, to elevate the pattern of life before our lifes, before we have 'sinned'. Our current life is based on world status quo after the Flood. All this happens with the axiome God created world, creats humans in their mortality today and people die because of their mortality (God doesn't let them die) and hope on living eternally

How can be religion declared to be dangerous for humanity, if many persons believing in God have done many things humanity helped, and besides the terrorists and many sins churchesa itself and believers commit(ed): What have moderate, deeply religious persons done to you? Do they always harm you?
 

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I think that terrorists are increasing their activity these years because they know in the long run people in the middle east will vomit their extreme ideas.. Look at how fake and cinematic the so called ISIS khalifat act.. Every idea terrorists believe in is illogical and filled with hate and lies that only stupid or people filled with grudge believe..
The real problem isn't only the existence of terrorists, it is first the way some people think they can use them when they want then discard.. Pakistan used Taliban, they collaborated with them during the 80s.. The project has failed and the country will pay for decades..
Second, middle east countries must be strong against terrorists from within, if they depend on others that previously damaged their countries, that previously called terrorists freedom fighters, to get rid of terrorists they are very stupid.. A sheep that asks the lion to make her feel warm and cozy.. Getting rid of terrorism is easier when you stop caring about what certain countries want from you and start looking inside your country because you will discover how most people hate terrorists and their ideas.. Terrorists and others spread the myth of people liking them, it is not true.. people hate them this is why they use fear and intimidation..
 

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So after a long time I got sick (and got sick again -.- ) I hope I can reply to this in the manner of a theologian because there were many things which are totally wrong resp. blind borrowed. I try to write not too much and gonna pick up the ones which annoy me the most.



A 'true evil' is not detectable here on earth, there are many factors influencing on persons' acting, just like people trying to legitimate their violence with the name of God. So the first sentence can't be philosphically argued because - first of all - 'the true evil' is a non-existing dualistic way of thinking which includes religious (polytheistic) thoughts already. Satan was many a time an inferior 'assistant' in the tradition of the book of Job and no other negative force has the power to oppose God (monotheistic traditional line). Because of that the true evil comes less from a 'theistic manner of speech', but more from bad anthropogenic influences on humans themselves. In a word: Jesus Christ never utilized violence as an option to realize aims (just like terrorists want to do to increase their power [to gain more money, ...]), Jesus fulfilled the laws of Moses with - love. Totally diametral to the way of thinking terrorists wanted to teach.
Huh? Why complicate things? All I was referring to by "true evil" is an evil far more pervasive and unquestioned than any act of terrorism. Religion encourages a thought process where you can rationalise evil acts. Terrorists are obviously evil but they are relatively small in number and every rational man on the planet knows this - so this threat is relatively limited.

Just by saying theistic speech like "I'll pray you recover from illness" makes you closer to a terrorist than an atheist, but of course that isn't questioned at all because it's normalised in the worlds culture. It's actually crazy to say that, because prayer does nothing.

The whole problem with religion is that there is absolutely no proof of any deity existing... And from a man-made book, the three big religions encourage absolute arguments from authority and unquestioning fanaticism towards their particular deity. Islam in particular is most guilty of this, in that there's so many surveys, studies, and facts that show a sizeable portion of the Muslim population in the world wants a worldwide Islamic caliphate, a sizeable population can rationalise killing for their God, and view women as inferior, anti-semetic, homophobic, etc. These aren't only terrorists, but they are the moderates.


The creation of the world in Genesis is written in a mythological narrative style and it's even more difficult because the ancient Hebrew is a world apart, can not be totally correctly translated because we are not totally sure what a significant term can mean (in the world of today and in the cultural thinking of many thousands years before Christ). So trying to explain the universe with religion is therefold not an ignorant argument, it's another argument. The Bible does not explain how the world works, otherwise we could close CERN and our will to discover from the universe should be vanished. And besides the evangelical Christs, many others would never try to convince someone that the world has been created in seven days. It's a mythological and metaphorical understanding of the world with the stress, e.g. on water; to these dates it was in many parts of the world detectable water was the arché of the whole materialism and Thales of Miletus for example tried to inset this thinking in his vestigial metaphyisics.
Using religion to explain the universe is absolutely an argument for ignorance (the logical fallacy). It is this way because theists use God to explain the creation of the universe when no such proof exists, and never will exist. This isn't only in reference to the evangelical christians. The best bet is waiting for advancements in science, because then you won't assert things without proper evidence and arguments that only stand on authority.


This was the hierarchy in paradise, lions and gazelles live peacefully quasi hand-in-hand and the thing is it should be a 'transcendent imagination', others would say utopia, to elevate the pattern of life before our lifes, before we have 'sinned'. Our current life is based on world status quo after the Flood. All this happens with the axiome God created world, creats humans in their mortality today and people die because of their mortality (God doesn't let them die) and hope on living eternally
What does that have to do with my statement? :shrug: I'm not talking heirarchies, but scientific evidence that theists tend to dismiss when linking anthropoids to less intelligent animals. Science shows that we're all animals, and I find with many theists that they can't comprehend this.


How can be religion declared to be dangerous for humanity, if many persons believing in God have done many things humanity helped, and besides the terrorists and many sins churchesa itself and believers commit(ed): What have moderate, deeply religious persons done to you? Do they always harm you?
Religion is dangerous because it emphasises authority-like doctrines despite superior forms of evidence (science) saying the contrary. It's dangerous because with religion, nothing changes, and there is no concept of adaptation or flexibility. It's dangerous because it discourages skepticism over blind faith and fanaticism. It's dangerous because religion is based on nothing (unverifiable) and if it wasn't based on nothing - then its followers wouldn't need to rely on blind faith. Faith isn't even respectable IMO, and if religion had a shred of scientific support - no religious person would ever bother using the faith argument, because it doesn't mean shit really.

Religious people are pretty annoying to me as an atheist. Most have no concept of an atheist viewpoint. I dismiss their religion like they (Christian) dismiss Islam labelling them as false-believing kafirs. I'll believe whatever religion can prove their god exists, and until then - it's all bullshit to me.

BTW this is not meant as an attack towards you, but my stance on religion. You are a pretty good poster.
 
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