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Which OOP format would you prefer?

  • 36 Match Optional OOP, all 1-2 vs 1-2 options

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  • 14 match optional OOP, 12 options for 4 singles matches plus 2 doubles matches

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The biggest concern I see for the ATP CUP is how we will run the OOP's, I see the format is relatively simple in the real event , with 1 vs 1 & 2 vs 2, plus 1 doubles for each country tie, and half the countries will play each day in RR Format, that will give us 12 singles and 6 doubles matches daily (typically we do not tip doubles matches in TT).

If the real event is run like DC , and last hour decision before each tie, and we want all optional matches (or at least most) , it becomes a very large OOP to pick from, then editing out which matches will be played, that is the option that was used at the recent DC tie.

We want this event to be as good as possible, has great potential, and I've heard from some that do not want to play because the DC format was difficult to understand at times, even though great effort was put forth by the manager.

Some of the ways I can see it run I will list below, I have a preference after looking closely, but I'll keep my opinion out of it.

1) 36 match optional OOP, with all 1-2 vs 1-2 options , matches played edited into diffs after matchups decided, this assures half the matches at minimum, any time a 1 vs 2 is played, the 2 vs 3 will not be included though

2) 18 match OOP , all six 1 vs 1 and all six 2 vs 2 plus all 6 doubles matches , any cancelled matched removed from diffs

3) 12 match OOP , singles only , all six 1 vs 1 and all six 2 vs 2 , any cancelled matches removed from diffs

4) 6 match OOP , 4 singles and 2 doubles , picking only from your venue of BRISBANE/PERTH or SYDNEY, cancelled matches removed from diffs

5) 14 match optional OOP, 12 singles of all 1-2 vs 1-2 options , keeping 4 (or less if any cancelled) that are played plus 2 doubles matches, from your own venue of BRISBANE/PERTH or SYDNEY

6) 60 Match Optional OOP, all 1-2 vs 1-2 plus 2-3 vs 2-3 , likely this gets all 12 matches that will be played, although extremely difficult to pick from and manage

7) other : open to hearing other ideas
 

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18 matches is sufficient enough... so Option B for me. That will allow for the perfect amount of diffs without overwhelming the players. Also makes a tough event to manage in the first place, a bit easier.
 

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I go option C
 

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You could have just hit the "View Results" button so that your voice counts. ?
Well I’m lazy and didn’t want to keep pressing view results each day :)

Also didn’t want to vote so anyone would think I wanted them to follow my lead :)
 

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Discussion Starter #13 (Edited)
DAY 1 SAMPLE OOP (12 SCHEDULED SINGLES MATCHES)

Denis SHAPOVALOV vs. Stefanos TSITSIPAS -- PTS1
Daniil MEDVEDEV vs Matteo BERRETTINI -- PTS2
Alexander ZVEREV vs. Alex DE MINAUR -- PTS3
David GOFFIN vs. Grigor DIMITROV -- PTS4
Jan-Lennard STRUFF vs. Nick KYRGIOS -- PTS5
Fabio FOGNINI vs. Karen KHACHANOV -- PTS6
Andy MURRAY vs. Radu ALBOT -- PTS7
Casper RUUD vs. John ISNER -- PTS8
Daniel EVANS vs. Alexander COZBINOV -- PTS9
Steve DARCIS vs. Dimitar KUZMANOV -- PTS10
Viktor DURASOVIC vs. Taylor FRITZ -- PTS11
Felix AUGER-ALIASSIME vs. Michail PERVOLARAKIS -- PTS12

RR1 DAY 1/1

Last Names only please in CAPITALS
PTS=send exact scores (64 63)
SR=send set ratio (2-0 or 2-1)
 

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DAY 1 SAMPLE OOP (12 SINGLES & 6 DOUBLES SCHEDULED MATCHES)

Denis SHAPOVALOV vs. Stefanos TSITSIPAS -- PTS1
Matteo BERRETTINI VS. John ISNER -- PTS2
Alexander ZVEREV vs. Alex DE MINAUR -- PTS3
Andy MURRAY vs. Grigor DIMITROV -- PTS4
Jan-Lennard STRUFF vs. Nick KYRGIOS -- PTS5
Fabio FOGNINI vs. Taylor FRITZ -- PTS6
Daniil MEDVEDEV vs. Casper RUUD -- PTS7
David GOFFIN vs. Radu ALBOT -- PTS8
Daniel EVANS vs. Dimitar KUZMANOV -- PTS9
Steve DARCIS vs. Alexander COZBINOV -- PTS10
Karen KHACHANOV vs. Viktor DURASOVIC -- PTS11
Felix AUGER-ALIASSIME vs. Michail PERVOLARAKIS -- PTS12
GERMANY vs AUSTRAILIA -- SR13
CANADA vs GREECE -- SR14
RUSSIA vs. NORWAY -- SR15
ITALY vs. USA -- SR16
BELGIUM vs. MOLDOVA -- SR17
GREAT BRITAIN vs. BULGARIA -- SR18

RR1 DAY 1/1

Last Names only please in CAPITALS
PTS=send exact scores (64 63)
SR=send set ratio (2-0 or 2-1)
 

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DAY 1 SAMPLE OOP (with only own venue / 4 singles 2 doubles)

Denis SHAPOVALOV vs. Stefanos TSITSIPAS -- PTS1
Alexander ZVEREV vs. Alex DE MINAUR -- PTS2
Jan-Lennard STRUFF vs. Nick KYRGIOS -- PTS3
Felix AUGER-ALIASSIME vs. Michail PERVOLARAKIS -- PTS4
GERMANY vs AUSTRAILIA -- SR5
CANADA vs GREECE -- SR6

RR1 DAY 1/1

Last Names only please in CAPITALS
PTS=send exact scores (64 63)
SR=send set ratio (2-0 or 2-1)
 

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Discussion Starter #16 (Edited)
DAY 2 SAMPLE OOP (12 SCHEDULED SINGLES MATCHES)

Borna CORIC vs. Dominic THIEM -- PTS1
Yoshihito NISHIOKA vs. Martin CUEVAS -- PTS2
Gael MONFILS vs. Christian GARIN -- PTS3
Novak DJOKOVIC vs. Kevin ANDERSON -- PTS4
Kei NISHIKORI vs. Pablo CUEVAS -- PTS5
Rafa NADAL vs. Nikoloz BASILASHVILI -- PTS6
Hubert HURKACZ vs. Diego SCHWARTZMAN -- PTS7
Kamil MAJCHRZAK vs. Guido PELLA -- PTS8
Marin CILIC vs. Dennis NOVAK -- PTS9
Dusan LAJOVIC vs. Lloyd HARRIS -- PTS10
Benoit PAIRE vs. Nicolas JARRY -- PTS11
Roberto BAUTISTA AGUT vs. Aleksandre METREVELI -- PTS12

RR1 DAY 1/1

Last Names only please in CAPITALS
PTS=send exact scores (64 63)
SR=send set ratio (2-0 or 2-1)
 

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Response from atp cup customer support email below , after me asking when OOP deadline is for captains to submit, then asking again to confirm :)

Hello Wesley,

Thank you for your email.

Yes, they submit players the afternoon before the next morning of play.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,
Renee
 

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option 3 wins, thankfully, I was hoping it wasn't seen as pivotal to run optional OOP's , which I always feel when required in rained out events, ruins good TT, but here I didn't believe required , but I think it's important we allow everyone to voice their opinion.
 
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