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And he's trying to get normal trade and relations with Cuba. Wonder how:
a) this will affect 2016
b) a Republican congress will react to this especially in light of a)
and most importantly
c) how abraxas will react to it
a) this will affect 2016
b) a Republican congress will react to this especially in light of a)
and most importantly
c) how abraxas will react to it
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Ambiguous reactions, from a foreign point of view is a positive decision, Obama showing good will to make a deep change towards Cuba. In the other hand, reactions won't be positive inside the USA, might result in again another Republican goverment that would go backwards regarding the issue. But at least for me, Obama is showing some balls here, and that's what i have been waiting for since 2008.
PD: Abraxas reactions are always good.
PD: Abraxas reactions are always good.
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http://pollingreport.com/cuba.htm
58% approve of his actions
Though Republicans are very good at spending a lot of money to make people think they oppose something they support (see: ACA, net neutrality)
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Seems like it's good policy and good politics. I am sure NeoCons or people who left Cuba in Miami will be pissed but most Americans probbaly don't care one way or another. Even among Republicans I doubt Tea Party types or Libertarians will really be mad about this.
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Exactly, this kind of changes are what people outside USA expected from Obama when he reach presidency. Hope it's not just a promise like Guitmo and the more decisions like this the better.
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I'm flattered
Honestly, I think it's great. However, the most important aspect is still pending: Mr. Obama, tear down that embargo.
(Or, in this case, the USA Congress)
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There should have been more of a deal. Congress tear down that embargo and Cuba allow democracy to flourish at the ballot box.I'm flattered
Honestly, I think it's great. However, the most important aspect is still pending: Mr. Obama, tear down that embargo.
(Or, in this case, the USA Congress)
The really most important aspect that is still pending is when the Castros loosen their grip on the island and allow the Cubans to choose a government at the ballot box.
As my friends in Cuba keep reminding me - "don't fall for Raul's propaganda. Nothing has changed for us.
He made the big announcement a while back that Cubans could have cell phones, but neglected to mention that they could never afford to own one. And still there is almost no access to the Internet."
It will be interesting to see what happens in Cuba as presumably the gift of oil from Venezuela will stop as things worsen in Venezuela.
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I dont like US policy but this is a good move, peace >--
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Let's see how much more the shale oil allows them to manipulate the oil prices, that's the answer for the las part.
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Sadly, little to no chance of the embargo being lifted in the GOP-controlled Congress, especially because Cruz, Paul, and Rubio will be jockeying to be the most hardline.
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What does that mean.
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I want to understand something, Obama said that sanctions hurt Cuban children and didn't achieve its goals, but now he is making sanctions against Crimeans for choosing something he doesn't approve and it is clear from situations there it is the people choice.. Aren't children in Crimea the same children every where.. I could understand sanctions made against weapons and all the stuff war leaders care about, but I don't understand sanctions that directly aim to affect people lives, normal people living in their homes like all of us.. Life changes and in the future, time will come when other people can prevent American children from feeding their hunger and what will Americans say in the future if this happens?
Why can't Obama and other western leaders tell us about the reason Crimeans went to the referendum and now living in peace, why aren't there a refusal for the new situation.. If western leaders are the honest ones why are situations on the ground different from their words about Russian aggression that deserve attempting to make them hungry? If they are honest why did they accept Kosovan independence and could they tell us how it is different so that they have to make sanctions.. Should we world population just accept sanctions directed against another country without a valid reason, and for reasons you made tens of times, really? We should just accept the world where the west have the powers to make our children hungry whenever they want?
Is it really acceptable to try to make people hungry for political reasons? If so how can we say we are better than terrorist scums who attacked children in the school..
I don't understand the campaign against Russian people, it is sickening and awakening to watch, if you do this to them, do you think we the normal people on earth should feel safe and willing to cooperate with the west especially in economy..
The Cuban move is a good peaceful move, but the better is not to put measures against children eating wherever these children live, even most criminals don't engage children in their fights.. But, if you insist on being a country that impose such measures then at least don't expect others to think you are the guardian of human rights, accept that you are just another aggressor.. Save us the lectures that are not applied in reality and accept that you are just another country engaging in a war with others over money and natural resources.. It is not about human rights or international law or whatever.. It is a gang fight over stuff you don't even own..
Why can't Obama and other western leaders tell us about the reason Crimeans went to the referendum and now living in peace, why aren't there a refusal for the new situation.. If western leaders are the honest ones why are situations on the ground different from their words about Russian aggression that deserve attempting to make them hungry? If they are honest why did they accept Kosovan independence and could they tell us how it is different so that they have to make sanctions.. Should we world population just accept sanctions directed against another country without a valid reason, and for reasons you made tens of times, really? We should just accept the world where the west have the powers to make our children hungry whenever they want?
Is it really acceptable to try to make people hungry for political reasons? If so how can we say we are better than terrorist scums who attacked children in the school..
I don't understand the campaign against Russian people, it is sickening and awakening to watch, if you do this to them, do you think we the normal people on earth should feel safe and willing to cooperate with the west especially in economy..
The Cuban move is a good peaceful move, but the better is not to put measures against children eating wherever these children live, even most criminals don't engage children in their fights.. But, if you insist on being a country that impose such measures then at least don't expect others to think you are the guardian of human rights, accept that you are just another aggressor.. Save us the lectures that are not applied in reality and accept that you are just another country engaging in a war with others over money and natural resources.. It is not about human rights or international law or whatever.. It is a gang fight over stuff you don't even own..
You are totally right, Cleo, this looks like farce. But if you do want to understand US policy, then look at economical interest.
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It's about damned time. Only our drug policy gives the Cuba isolation strategy a run for it's money for seemingly never-ending stupidity and ineffectiveness. What makes the Cuba policy all the more irritating is that it's probably only been as set in stone as it has been thanks to the outsized influence of a small voting block in a particularly important swing state. That younger Cuban-Americans in Florida have less emotional baggage on this issue than their elders is surely the only reason Obama is willing to make this move.
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Yes, I agree that the policy has to change. But what Obama did offers no immediate relief for Cubans, except they can get more money from the U.S. That would always interest Castro. I do not see that Obama got anything in the deal, except two prisoners.
But no political parties, no votes, no freedom of speech. And if it means more tourists, Castro will like that too, because the Cuban hotel industry is owned by the Army.
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