Mens Tennis Forums banner

Status
Not open for further replies.
1 - 20 of 135 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
13,393 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Cut some extra wordy crap out of the article, you can read it in full at the source

Serbian tennis star Novak Djokovic hasn't earned his No. 1 ranking by taking the conventional road. There's his odd ritual of excessive ball bouncing before serves, which can break an opponent's concentration. There's his new gluten-free diet, which he's said has helped him feel stronger on the court.

But now there's something truly weird: the CVAC Pod.



Ever since last year's U.S. Open, Djokovic has been trying to improve his fitness by climbing into a rare $75,000 egg-shaped, bobsled-sized pressure chamber.

The machine, which is made by a California-based company called CVAC Systems and hasn't been banned by any sports governing bodies, is one of only 20 in the world. Unlike the increasingly trendy $5,000 hyperbaric chambers many professional athletes use to saturate the blood with oxygen and stimulate healing, the CVAC is a considerably more-ambitious contraption. It uses a computer-controlled valve and a vacuum pump to simulate high altitude and compress the muscles at rhythmic intervals.

The company claims that spending up to 20 minutes in the pod three times a week can boost athletic performance by improving circulation, boosting oxygen-rich red-blood cells, removing lactic acid and possibly even stimulating mitochondrial biogenesis and stem-cell production.

Djokovic has never mentioned the pod publicly before. He acknowledged using it for the first time last week during a sponsor event in New York after he was asked about it for this article. "I think it really helps—not with muscle but more with recovery after an exhausting set," he said. "It's like a spaceship. It's very interesting."

CVAC says its pod is different from other pressurized chambers on the market because it combines altitude pressure with cyclic compression. Because the pressure, temperature, air density in the CVAC pod can be adjusted, the company says it enhances an athlete's ability to adapt to a range of conditions.

CVAC Systems chief executive Allen Ruszkowski says the treatment seems to have many of the same effects on the body as intense exercise. He claims that the technology may be twice as effective at helping the body absorb oxygen as blood doping—a banned form of performance enhancement :)stupid:)

Former U.S. Olympic wrestling coach Bob Anderson, motocross racer Ivan Tedesco and ultra cyclist George Vargas say they've used the pod and believe it helps. CVAC's Ruszkowski says a slew of other high-profile athletes use the Pod but often insist the company doesn't tell anyone, "because they feel it's a competitive advantage.".

Djokovic and other players who know him say he's a visionary obsessed with cutting-edge performance technologies. "He loves to explore the future of athletic edges—and he has the resources to do it," says former top-20 player Vince Spadea :)haha:) who hit with Djokovic in Alpine last summer when he says Novak was first "experimenting" with the pod at Uehling's estate. "He was looking to improve some of the challenges he was having—breathing capacity, allergies—and definitely something clicked there."

Spadea says he didn't dare set foot in the pod himself because he doesn't share Djokovic's "daredevil mentality." Djokovic's Serbian countryman, Janko Tipsarevic, currently ranked No. 20, says he's heard about the pod but hasn't tried it yet, either.

Geoff Grant, tennis director at at Tenafly Racquet Club, says he braved the pressure chamber at Uehling's request and felt like he was taking off in an airplane as his ears popped. He says he hasn't used it enough to notice a difference in his play, but adds that some of his clients who go more regularly are hooked and "say it's like a drug."

"It's weird—it's definitely something from the future," Grant said last week at the racquet club. "I think Novak was going to get in it today."

In 2006 the World Anti-Doping Agency ruled that such oxygen tents enhance performance and violate "the spirit of sport," but did not add them to the list of banned substances and methods, saying they would wait until further studies were conducted :)eyeroll:)
Thoughts? :scratch:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,805 Posts
Well it's proven that oxygen tents and different high altitude machines DO WORK. That thingy takes it to the next level with some added features.

But what should be banned anyway then. Take the people born on high altitude (like certain runners....) that has a huge advantage because they have had natural high altitude training since they were 1 day old.

A guy that takes EPO to get the same capability to transfer oxygen with his blood would be banned but the performance increase is comparable.

It's always been unfair and these "machines" is just a new way to enhance yourself that isn't banned yet. And more importantly noone really knows the long term effects of certain of these new inventions.

It is reasonable that this could give a higher boost than quitting gluten at least. Novaks gluten allergy was never that bad anyway which was obvious from him being a high performing athelete all these years before changing his diet. It was more like a camouflage to hide other things he's done to improve his game, egg and other things included.
 

·
♥ eve ♥
Joined
·
40,985 Posts
Everyone should then use this "pod egg" but surely the journeymen wouldn't be able to afford it........
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,582 Posts
Well it's proven that oxygen tents and different high altitude machines DO WORK. That thingy takes it to the next level with some added features.

But what should be banned anyway then. Take the people born on high altitude (like certain runners....) that has a huge advantage because they have had natural high altitude training since they were 1 day old.

A guy that takes EPO to get the same capability to transfer oxygen with his blood would be banned but the performance increase is comparable.

It's always been unfair and these "machines" is just a new way to enhance yourself that isn't banned yet. And more importantly noone really knows the long term effects of certain of these new inventions.

It is reasonable that this could give a higher boost than quitting gluten at least. Novaks gluten allergy was never that bad anyway which was obvious from him being a high performing athelete all these years before changing his diet. It was more like a camouflage to hide other things he's done to improve his game, egg and other things included.
this doesnt make sense. now, he is high performing athlete, but before this year he was struggling a lot with the breathing. it was obvious something physically was very wrong with him, and when he found out what it was, hes playing better.

this egg is like training at high altitude but without effort (as I gather), he'd have to be locked in there for months to make such jump from where he was, say, 2 years ago to where is he now - physically. but he went in the egg thing once or twice, like last year this time, and this year, as I understand.

besides, this is more of a marketing shit-spin for a type of device all sorts of pros use. kind of like that cell thing that cures everything.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,782 Posts
Cut some extra wordy crap out of the article, you can read it in full at the source



Thoughts? :scratch:
Thoughts?
If a cyclist has a similar drastic improvement in performance and uses an egg shaped pod as an explanation, he wouldn't be able to get a contract with a pro team.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,247 Posts
So this is a 'legal' form of doping... great! :rolleyes:
 

·
Lurrrkin'
Joined
·
18,058 Posts
Dunno about the future of athletic edges, the pod sounds more like the future of banned equipment. Performance enhancing drugs shall be a thing of the ancient past when performance enhancing technology gets through with athletes performances.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DinnerWarrior

·
Registered
Joined
·
42,421 Posts
:spit: :haha: :haha:
And Vince Spadea, now that seals it. :superlol: :worship: :bowdown:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
29,533 Posts
I actually find this hilarious. Sounds sorta like an april fools joke. :lol:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
21,537 Posts
It seems more like placebo than anything else :shrug: Anyway, since it's legal and not a big secret, I don't see what stops other top players from using it if they want... and probably they are using it :p
 

·
♥ eve ♥
Joined
·
40,985 Posts
It seems more like placebo than anything else :shrug:
:lol: sure... :eek:

Anyway, since it's legal and not a big secret, I don't see what stops other top players from using it if they want... and probably they are using it :p
Surely only the most paid players could afford such a thing, hardly a fair thing.

I say, ban that thing and Nole will be back to #3-5 in the world where he's always belonged...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
16,071 Posts
It seems more like placebo than anything else :shrug:p
where is your evidence for this?



It's legal at present and he's not doing anything wrong, would be interesting to know which other players/ athletes do use things like this but just don't tell people about it.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
21,537 Posts
Surely only the most paid players could afford such a thing, hardly a fair thing.
It's hardly going to make a dent in any top 30's or even top 50's account :shrug: Anyway, many players can't afford moving their entourage around the world in a private jet and what not, but I don't see you losing any sleep over it :lol: :zzz:
Bottom line, it's not illegal nor banned, so suck it. :wavey:

where is your evidence for this?
Where is your evidence? I don't see anything conclusive, besides the PR from the manufacturer, who would surely like to sell as many eggs as possible :lol:
 
1 - 20 of 135 Posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top