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Noticing a trend? Start to educate yourselves now & learn about surface TRANSITION

Transitioning between clay and grass within 1 week, IS NOT EASY.

Gulbis knocked out, Murray knocked out, Cilic knocked out and Nadal to also be potentially, knocked out.

You're then coming up against players who are MATCH-HARD after playing the qualifiers and they will give whatever they can to beat you, PLAY INSPIRED TENNIS, you name it.

So now put your pipe away and start respecting the fact its BLOODY DIFFICULT to switch from clay to grass.

Federer and Nadal winning the french and wimbledon back to back is an INCREDIBLE accomplishment, INCREDIBLE, SIMPAAAAALAAAAAYY.
 

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It's not just about transition it's about them needing rest and the turnaround from the French to Queens/Halle being too short.
 

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It's not just about transition it's about them needing rest and the turnaround from the French to Queens/Halle being too short.
I disagree.

90% is transition.
 

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You're right but GM is too busy drowning in rival fanbases gloating at each other.
 

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You're right but GM is too busy drowning in rival fanbases gloating at each other.
Immaturity at it's finest.
 

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Thanks for stating the obvious
 

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In case you haven't noticed, almost everybody is transitioning from clay to grass this week. Few exceptions are the players who played in Nottingham last week. Even the players who got knocked out early on Roland Garros, most of them played on clay challengers last week.

A clear case of that is Stepanek, who was actually playing on clay against Vesely last Saturday, while Murray was already practising in Queen's Club.
 

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Andre♥;23128738 said:
In case you haven't noticed, almost everybody is transitioning from clay to grass this week. Few exceptions are the players who played in Nottingham last week. Even the players who got knocked out early on Roland Garros, most of them played on clay challengers last week.

A clear case of that is Stepanek, who was actually playing on clay against Vesely last Saturday, while Murray was already practising in Queen's Club.
Not quite simpleton.

Gulbis - semi finalist at the french, he's played endless claycourt tennis.

Nadal - French Open winner

Murray - French Open semi-finalist

Cilic - Played all the masters events on clay and got to the 2nd or 3rd round, taking a set off djokovic in a fairly long encounter

Player's playing clay challengers last week are the ones with no hope or ambition for grass.

It's definitely to do with surface transitioning.

Birdshit being taken to 3 sets by duckworth and missing 19 breakpoints versus Mannarino.

We are going from the slowest, to almost the fastest, I know the US hardcourt american swing brings about a few surfaces faster than grass, but the ball doesn't bounce anywhere NEAR as low and skid off in the same fashion.


Clay to Grass - Fucking impossible.

I dislike Nadal with a passion but when he won the french open and played queens 2 days later to win that tournament, followed by wimbledon with a thrilling 5 setter against fed in 08.... BOY... that was SICK.
 

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A Brit looking for excuses for Murray's loss? Didn't expect that one.

It wasn't Murray's first match on grass this week, so it wasn't a transitional issue. Besides, he grew up on this surface, so he feels it better than 99% of the Tour. Also, Stepanek played on clay till the end of last week, switching to grass later than Murray, but still managed to beat him in straights in front of his homecrowd.
 

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A Brit looking for excuses for Murray's loss? Didn't expect that one.

It wasn't Murray's first match on grass this week, so it wasn't a transitional issue. Besides, he grew up on this surface, so he feels it better than 99% of the Tour. Also, Stepanek played on clay till the end of last week, switching to grass later than Murray, but still managed to beat him in straights in front of his homecrowd.
Why does there always have to be an ulterior motive behind any single fucking piece of opinion and understanding someone has?

Are you that fucking stupidly and boring immature for a 28 year old? That you have to draw a link between me and Murray here? Yeah. Really?

If I'm so mother fucking bias, what the mother fuck do you call this you prat? http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=465970&highlight=

Get a brain and fucking accept that I am one of the more GENUINE tennis fans around here and not some glorified fanboy that picks a player and then attaches themselves to that player for their entire lives.

Fool.
 

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Clay to fast grass takes adjustment. Lets not take from that the delusion that the channel slam is the challenge that it used to be, it is certainly not. Apart from stepping in for ROS, that is why people play the same tennis on both surfaces.

The conditions at Wimbledon after the first 4 days are *very* amenable to claycourters these days. Pre slowing down of SW19, you had completely different tennis styles winning each respective tournament.
 

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It doesn't matter whether or not somebody grew up on a surface or not, it is bloody difficult to transition from playing on a slow surface to a fast surface, PROVEN FACT.

I know, I've done it and it's not easy, your timing is all over the place.

All the upsets have been players whom went deep in the french open.
 

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Mr obvious strikes again.
Coming from you? lol

The one that thinks have a good stratergy in tennis isn't needed and that it's a simple sport and not requiring of a brain?

Seriously. lol

If this was obvious to people on this board, they wouldn't be out there putting Nadal's loss down to a tank. How did most react to when Gulbis went out yesterday?

Listen mate, you're pissing everybody off here with your threads, they suck and so do you, don't post in my threads again. Thanks.

Keep thinking french players are the best in the world.

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Thanks for stating the obvious
lol

It's obvious? If it was obvious, you would have predicted the losses, but you didn't. Look at the muppets in the post match threads calling it down to a tank. lol Yeah it's so obvious. Shut up. There's many here who are too ill-informed to realise how difficult it is to switch from clay to grass, it may be obvious to someone like you with a more sophisticated tennis background, but the muppets on here that like to boil everything down to tanking or mugging, it's not.
 

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Mr obvious strikes again.
Oh and stop copying other people's posts.
 

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How one trick pony Nadull can transform on clay to Grass since he's vastly declined? Clay is good for him vulturing few more titles with his talentless mugging and Moon balling with choking opponent every time

Grass is for talented players like. D. Brown, The GOAT, Dimitrov, Murray ( Knocked out but will comeback again).
 

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The IQ of this forum is LOW and sometimes you have break down obvious points to get through to people's thick skulls.
 

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How one trick pony Nadull can transform on clay to Grass since he's vastly declined? Clay is good for him vulturing few more titles with his talentless mugging and Moon balling with choking opponent every time

Grass is for talented players like. D. Brown, The GOAT, Dimitrov, Murray ( Knocked out but will comeback again).
So why did Murray and Cilic get knocked out early if it's just hand-eye coordination and timing?
 
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