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Kyrgios, the k1ngkyrg1ros comes to word. All what he says is irrelevant, has he ever said anything noteworthy or just meaningful?
Besides the obvious fact, that Kokkinakis and Vekic had sex?

:haha: :haha: :haha:

He also wrote: "I was actually a little bit of a younger brother to you."

Was he really? Was it not his imagination only?
Let time answer it...
 

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Well, I get what Nikos is trying to say.

In 13 of 14 of Novak's major wins Novak took advantage of being the younger player (93%)
Beating older players is the norm once one gets past their teens if one is any good at all. Great younger players push out great older players to retirement.

The first and only player that Novak has beaten so far in a major final that is younger, was in last year's US Open against the often injury hampered Juan Martin Del Potro (lastest injury - fractured knee after many years of wrist injuries/surgeries)

Clearly, Novak has taken advantage of the dearth of younger high quality players in the generations that have followed him. There is no slam winner under the age of 30 yet.
Once that happens, we will probably see the end of the 30 somethings' success.

Novak's birthday - May 22, 1987

1. 2008 AO - Tsonga - April 17, 1985 (2y1m5d older)
2. 2011 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
3. 2011 WC - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
4 2011 US - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
5. 2012 AO - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
6. 2013 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
7. 2014 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
8. 2015 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
9. 2015 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
10 2015 US - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
11. 2016 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
12 2016 RG - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
13. 2018 WC - Anderson -May 18, 1986 (1y0m4d older)
14. 2018 US - Del Potro - Sep 23, 1988 (1y4m1d younger)

Now contrast this with Nadal.
Nadal has won 12 of 17 (71%) major finals against older players as expected. His 5 wins against younger players were 4 to Novak Djokovic (2 at US and 2 at RG) and his latest to Thiem at RG.
That's about 29% win rate against younger players, not bad.

And now the great Roger Federer.
Only 5 of his 20 (25%) major final wins have come against older players (Philappoussis, Safin, Hewitt, Agassi, F. Gonzalez). He's had to fight off younger players in 75% of his major wins. This is simply an incredible stat. As one might expect from a great player, Federer never lost to an older player in a major final. :worship:

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Well, I get what Nikos is trying to say.

In 13 of 14 of Novak's major wins Novak took advantage of being the younger player (93%)
Beating older players is the norm once one gets past their teens if one is any good at all. Great younger players push out great older players to retirement.

The first and only player that Novak has beaten so far in a major final that is younger, was in last year's US Open against the often injury hampered Juan Martin Del Potro (lastest injury - fractured knee after many years of wrist injuries/surgeries)

Clearly, Novak has taken advantage of the dearth of younger high quality players in the generations that have followed him. There is no slam winner under the age of 30 yet.
Once that happens, we will probably see the end of the 30 somethings' success.

Novak's birthday - May 22, 1987

1. 2008 AO - Tsonga - April 17, 1985 (2y1m5d older)
2. 2011 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
3. 2011 WC - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
4 2011 US - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
5. 2012 AO - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
6. 2013 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
7. 2014 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
8. 2015 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
9. 2015 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
10 2015 US - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
11. 2016 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
12 2016 RG - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
13. 2018 WC - Anderson -May 18, 1986 (1y0m4d older)
14. 2018 US - Del Potro - Sep 23, 1988 (1y4m1d younger)

Now contrast this with Nadal.
Nadal has won 12 of 17 (71%) major finals against older players as expected. His 5 wins against younger players were 4 to Novak Djokovic (2 at US and 2 at RG) and his latest to Thiem at RG.
That's about 29% win rate against younger players, not bad.

And now the great Roger Federer.
Only 5 of his 20 (25%) major final wins have come against older players (Philappoussis, Safin, Hewitt, Agassi, F. Gonzalez). He's had to fight off younger players in 75% of his major wins. This is simply an incredible stat. As one might expect from a great player, Federer never lost to an older player in a major final. :worship:

Respectfully,
masterclass

Even for you, this is reaching new levels of sad trolling. You actually believe it, too. Like there's a legit point to be made here, lol.
 

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Well, I get what Nikos is trying to say.

In 13 of 14 of Novak's major wins Novak took advantage of being the younger player (93%)
Beating older players is the norm once one gets past their teens if one is any good at all. Great younger players push out great older players to retirement.

The first and only player that Novak has beaten so far in a major final that is younger, was in last year's US Open against the often injury hampered Juan Martin Del Potro (lastest injury - fractured knee after many years of wrist injuries/surgeries)

Clearly, Novak has taken advantage of the dearth of younger high quality players in the generations that have followed him. There is no slam winner under the age of 30 yet.
Once that happens, we will probably see the end of the 30 somethings' success.

Novak's birthday - May 22, 1987

1. 2008 AO - Tsonga - April 17, 1985 (2y1m5d older)
2. 2011 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
3. 2011 WC - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
4 2011 US - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
5. 2012 AO - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
6. 2013 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
7. 2014 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
8. 2015 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
9. 2015 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
10 2015 US - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
11. 2016 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
12 2016 RG - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
13. 2018 WC - Anderson -May 18, 1986 (1y0m4d older)
14. 2018 US - Del Potro - Sep 23, 1988 (1y4m1d younger)

Now contrast this with Nadal.
Nadal has won 12 of 17 (71%) major finals against older players as expected. His 5 wins against younger players were 4 to Novak Djokovic (2 at US and 2 at RG) and his latest to Thiem at RG.
That's about 29% win rate against younger players, not bad.

And now the great Roger Federer.
Only 5 of his 20 (25%) major final wins have come against older players (Philappoussis, Safin, Hewitt, Agassi, F. Gonzalez). He's had to fight off younger players in 75% of his major wins. This is simply an incredible stat. As one might expect from a great player, Federer never lost to an older player in a major final. <img src="https://www.acadiaforum.net/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="" title="not worthy" class="inlineimg" />

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masterclass
Great post. Novak Djokovic is the most overrated athlete in any sport of any era.
 

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Great post. Novak Djokovic is the most overrated athlete in any sport of any era.
Yes, beating the more accomplished Federer and Nadal in the midst of their primes is horrendous.

Meanwhile Federer had to deal with these uber fresh young beheamoths and slam final debutants in Baghdatis, Söderling, Murray, Gonzalez...

its truly eye opening.
 

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Well, I get what Nikos is trying to say.

In 13 of 14 of Novak's major wins Novak took advantage of being the younger player (93%)
Beating older players is the norm once one gets past their teens if one is any good at all. Great younger players push out great older players to retirement.

The first and only player that Novak has beaten so far in a major final that is younger, was in last year's US Open against the often injury hampered Juan Martin Del Potro (lastest injury - fractured knee after many years of wrist injuries/surgeries)

Clearly, Novak has taken advantage of the dearth of younger high quality players in the generations that have followed him. There is no slam winner under the age of 30 yet.
Once that happens, we will probably see the end of the 30 somethings' success.

Novak's birthday - May 22, 1987

1. 2008 AO - Tsonga - April 17, 1985 (2y1m5d older)
2. 2011 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
3. 2011 WC - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
4 2011 US - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
5. 2012 AO - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
6. 2013 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
7. 2014 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
8. 2015 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
9. 2015 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
10 2015 US - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
11. 2016 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
12 2016 RG - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
13. 2018 WC - Anderson -May 18, 1986 (1y0m4d older)
14. 2018 US - Del Potro - Sep 23, 1988 (1y4m1d younger)

Now contrast this with Nadal.
Nadal has won 12 of 17 (71%) major finals against older players as expected. His 5 wins against younger players were 4 to Novak Djokovic (2 at US and 2 at RG) and his latest to Thiem at RG.
That's about 29% win rate against younger players, not bad.

And now the great Roger Federer.
Only 5 of his 20 (25%) major final wins have come against older players (Philappoussis, Safin, Hewitt, Agassi, F. Gonzalez). He's had to fight off younger players in 75% of his major wins. This is simply an incredible stat. As one might expect from a great player, Federer never lost to an older player in a major final. :worship:

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masterclass
A worthy candidate for troll post of the year. Likely won't hold up as it's early season.
 

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Thanks for those stats but what do they have to do with Kyrgios saying that Murray "should have a way better career" than Djokovic (they are the same age)?
Look, Nikos is clearly a younger player who can play great tennis when he gets up for it, right? But he is more or less expected to beat a fellow great player that is older than he is like a Djokovic or Sir Murray, so he is much more impressed by the difficulty that he has in beating Murray than the ease of beating Djokovic, and so gives a lot of credit to Murray, which is very considerate on his part. :)

To connect the dots, this led me to wonder how other greats performed against players younger and older than themselves in major finals and those are the stats I presented.

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Great post. Novak Djokovic is the most overrated athlete in any sport of any era.
Sure, he is now probably kicking himself hard Down Under, for not being 8 days older (to be older than Murray) or not being 11 & 1/2 months older (to be older than Nadal) or e.g. why 22 y.o Tsonga was not also just 20 y.o. as him at AO'08 final, because it seems that 20 y.o. finalist has an age advantage over 22 y.o. according to some MTF members, or e.g. 20.3 y.o Djokovic in his first GS final over 26 y.o. Federer in his 14th final.
 

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What Kyrgios forgot about is, that actually there are people on this planet being familiar with double-digit numbers and this comment might look strange to this elite circle.
 

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Well, I get what Nikos is trying to say.

In 13 of 14 of Novak's major wins Novak took advantage of being the younger player (93%)
Beating older players is the norm once one gets past their teens if one is any good at all. Great younger players push out great older players to retirement.

The first and only player that Novak has beaten so far in a major final that is younger, was in last year's US Open against the often injury hampered Juan Martin Del Potro (lastest injury - fractured knee after many years of wrist injuries/surgeries)

Clearly, Novak has taken advantage of the dearth of younger high quality players in the generations that have followed him. There is no slam winner under the age of 30 yet.
Once that happens, we will probably see the end of the 30 somethings' success.

Novak's birthday - May 22, 1987

1. 2008 AO - Tsonga - April 17, 1985 (2y1m5d older)
2. 2011 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
3. 2011 WC - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
4 2011 US - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
5. 2012 AO - Nadal - June 3, 1986 (11m12d older)
6. 2013 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
7. 2014 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
8. 2015 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
9. 2015 WC - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
10 2015 US - Federer - Aug 8, 1981 (5y9m14d older)
11. 2016 AO - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
12 2016 RG - Murray - May 15, 1987 (7d older)
13. 2018 WC - Anderson -May 18, 1986 (1y0m4d older)
14. 2018 US - Del Potro - Sep 23, 1988 (1y4m1d younger)

Now contrast this with Nadal.
Nadal has won 12 of 17 (71%) major finals against older players as expected. His 5 wins against younger players were 4 to Novak Djokovic (2 at US and 2 at RG) and his latest to Thiem at RG.
That's about 29% win rate against younger players, not bad.

And now the great Roger Federer.
Only 5 of his 20 (25%) major final wins have come against older players (Philappoussis, Safin, Hewitt, Agassi, F. Gonzalez). He's had to fight off younger players in 75% of his major wins. This is simply an incredible stat. As one might expect from a great player, Federer never lost to an older player in a major final. :worship:

Respectfully,
masterclass
You moron-troll even couldn't get your facts straight :haha: :haha:. And the fact is that Djokovic is actually younger than Murray for 8 days. Not that is changes something, but the correct stat is 6 of 14 = 42%
 

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You moron-troll even couldn't get your facts straight :haha: :haha:. And the fact is that Djokovic is actually younger than Murray for 8 days. Not that is changes something, but the correct stat is 6 of 14 = 42%
Yes, Djokovic is a Gemini, while Murray is a Taurus.
 

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Nick is entitled to his opinion.Poor way to word it.
In his intent to comfort Murray he managed to insult and disrespect both Djokovic and Murray himself.

The same way masterclass did with his off topic post, he literally insulted and disrespected not only Djokovic but Federer and Nadal.

But it's interesting how moderation of this site remain silent at his 24/7 trolliing players who poses a treat to Federer. And oh look at likes he received.LOL
 

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The same way masterclass did with his off topic post, he literally insulted and disrespected not only Djokovic but Federer and Nadal.

But it's interesting how moderation of this site remain silent at his 24/7 trolliing players who poses a treat to Federer. And oh look at likes he received.LOL
Be happy if he's not promoted to mod, due to all the "respectfulness". ;)
 

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Nick is entitled to his opinion.Poor way to word it.
In his intent to comfort Murray he managed to insult and disrespect both Djokovic and Murray himself.

The same way masterclass did with his off topic post, he literally insulted and disrespected not only Djokovic but Federer and Nadal.

But it's interesting how moderation of this site remain silent at his 24/7 trolliing players who poses a treat to Federer. And oh look at likes he received.LOL
What should the moderator do? You want them to delete the posts that insult players? Why? The posts should stand on their own. You are allowed to have an opinion on players just like the other posters are.
 
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