Mens Tennis Forums banner

1 - 20 of 4751 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,596 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,217 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

While I don't think he's suicidal or has gone completely mad, I still think this whole thing is irresponsible :shrug: I'm sure they wouldn't have taken him if they didn't think he could hack it, but 8200 m is 8200 m. He will experience severe cold, diarrhoea, possible dehydration, frozen limbs (not anything serious hopefully, but still), the effects of altitude, exhaustion. That sort of thing takes a serious toll on the body, it's not 40 days of leisure fishing in fucking Yosemite Park.

Ugh. If you need to find yourself spiritually, go visit some damn monasteries or something, don't put your body through all that. *shakes head* But who knows, maybe that's what he wants, to push himself physically :shrug: :smash:

Just... come back in one piece, Oaf. I hope you haven't dug yourself too deep this time.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,596 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
Re: Marat news and articles

which thread is DENIAL, btw? :tape:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

While I don't think he's suicidal or has gone completely mad, I still think this whole thing is irresponsible :shrug: I'm sure they wouldn't have taken him if they didn't think he could hack it, but 8200 m is 8200 m. He will experience severe cold, diarrhoea, possible dehydration, frozen limbs (not anything serious hopefully, but still), the effects of altitude, exhaustion. That sort of thing takes a serious toll on the body, it's not 40 days of leisure fishing in fucking Yosemite Park.

Ugh. If you need to find yourself spiritually, go visit some damn monasteries or something, don't put your body through all that. *shakes head* But who knows, maybe that's what he wants, to push himself physically :shrug: :smash:

Just... come back in one piece, Oaf. I hope you haven't dug yourself too deep this time.
Yeah, I absolutely agree. I mean "wanting" to go and going without preparation are two different things, I also wondered about the other team members. I'm a little worried the PR and the fame factor might be an influence. But when you're in the wall when will the "experienced" climbers start to talk about "Why did we have to bring him? He can't even properly jumar, pommel, snitchel, abseil, upseil or middletwiddle!" (improvised mountaineering vocabulary).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,596 Posts
Discussion Starter #7

·
Registered
Joined
·
527 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

This is what people are missing IMO...They are somehow equalizing this with someone withdrawing from society and contemplating life. Look, I am sure we all at some point in our lives could see the ridiculousness of a successful, good-looking, popular, multi-millionaire athlete's urgent need of evaluating his life every few years (really, what the fuck is there to think about?)..And I get that after being a fan of Marat for x amount of years maybe we don't see such obvious things as easily. That's beside the point...Why are people failing to see how dangerous and ultimately senseless all this is?
What amazes me about this forum, which is supposedly frequented by people who claim to have 'supported' or been a 'fan' or 'follower' or whatever you want to call yourseleves, of Marat for 'X' amount of years show so LITTLE FAITH in him and his ability as a person to make whatever life choices he sees fit. I am not only referring to THIS quote, by the way, and I really can't be bothered trawling through all the dross for further examples, but there have been too many.

So, where do YOU, or anyone else on this forum get the right to pour so much judgemental scorn on someone you imagine you admire and respect..oh, sorry - admiration and respect are in pretty poor supply in my opinion based on observing this forum for only a few short months.

Marat Safin is an adult who is perfectly capable of making his own decisions about what he can or cannot do; He has taken on a task which PLENTY of other people have done and will continue to do. YES there is an elemant of risk - but crossing the road is risky - and do you know that most accidents happen in the home? He is on a professional tour run and supplied by professionals - he obviously has been planning this for months - he's not just thrown a backpack on and taken off into the hills. I fully respect and admire Marat in his choice - he WILL have a fantastic experience and whatever motivated him to go, I beleive he will ultimately benefit from the experience - "ultimately senseless"? to YOU, maybe - not to Marat.

As far as 'what has Marat to think about' - do you REALLY believe he is as one-dimensional as that?? if you think that what you observe of Marat tells anything like the whole story....LOL!

As for his career - it's his LIFE - he has dedicated himself to his career since he was sent off at 14 - if he wants to quit and do something completely different - ????? who says he can't or shouldn't - really, people, get a grip !! Marat is a human being not your own personal entertainment system - and I'm so glad that he is doing what he's doing because HE WANTS TO.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,268 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

As for his career - it's his LIFE - he has dedicated himself to his career since he was sent off at 14 - if he wants to quit and do something completely different - ????? who says he can't or shouldn't - really, people, get a grip !! Marat is a human being not your own personal entertainment system - and I'm so glad that he is doing what he's doing because HE WANTS TO.
I agree.
:shrug:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

What amazes me about this forum, which is supposedly frequented by people who claim to have 'supported' or been a 'fan' or 'follower' or whatever you want to call yourseleves, of Marat for 'X' amount of years show so LITTLE FAITH in him and his ability as a person to make whatever life choices he sees fit. I am not only referring to THIS quote, by the way, and I really can't be bothered trawling through all the dross for further examples, but there have been too many.

So, where do YOU, or anyone else on this forum get the right to pour so much judgemental scorn on someone you imagine you admire and respect..oh, sorry - admiration and respect are in pretty poor supply in my opinion based on observing this forum for only a few short months.

Marat Safin is an adult who is perfectly capable of making his own decisions about what he can or cannot do; He has taken on a task which PLENTY of other people have done and will continue to do. YES there is an elemant of risk - but crossing the road is risky - and do you know that most accidents happen in the home? He is on a professional tour run and supplied by professionals - he obviously has been planning this for months - he's not just thrown a backpack on and taken off into the hills. I fully respect and admire Marat in his choice - he WILL have a fantastic experience and whatever motivated him to go, I beleive he will ultimately benefit from the experience - "ultimately senseless"? to YOU, maybe - not to Marat.

As far as 'what has Marat to think about' - do you REALLY believe he is as one-dimensional as that?? if you think that what you observe of Marat tells anything like the whole story....LOL!

As for his career - it's his LIFE - he has dedicated himself to his career since he was sent off at 14 - if he wants to quit and do something completely different - ????? who says he can't or shouldn't - really, people, get a grip !! Marat is a human being not your own personal entertainment system - and I'm so glad that he is doing what he's doing because HE WANTS TO.
maybe some people here know him better than you think.


edit: i don't mean myself, don't get me wrong.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,011 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

To comfort some of you,Polish TV presenter Martyna Wojciechowska climbed Mt.Everst last year.OK she climbed on Mt Blanc,Kilimanjaro and Aconcagua before but those were really easy to ascent peaks, especially the first two.:p
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

As someone with a lifelong experience with mountains I can tell everybody that 40 days in Himalay this is not about "finding you own self" and "pushing yourself physically". If you want to do that go on a three day river rafting trip. And men in their mid-twenties have always been known to make very wise choices (as men in general) and not to go get shot in wars, drink to braindeath and so forth...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

To comfort some of you,Polish TV presenter Martyna Wojciechowska climbed Mt.Everst last year.OK she climbed on Mt Blanc,Kilimanjaro and Aconcagua before but those were really easy to ascent peaks, especially the first two.:p

wow, so she went as a total "beginner". every tried climbing mont blanc?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,154 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

What amazes me about this forum, which is supposedly frequented by people who claim to have 'supported' or been a 'fan' or 'follower' or whatever you want to call yourseleves, of Marat for 'X' amount of years show so LITTLE FAITH in him and his ability as a person to make whatever life choices he sees fit. I am not only referring to THIS quote, by the way, and I really can't be bothered trawling through all the dross for further examples, but there have been too many.

So, where do YOU, or anyone else on this forum get the right to pour so much judgemental scorn on someone you imagine you admire and respect..oh, sorry - admiration and respect are in pretty poor supply in my opinion based on observing this forum for only a few short months.

Marat Safin is an adult who is perfectly capable of making his own decisions about what he can or cannot do; He has taken on a task which PLENTY of other people have done and will continue to do. YES there is an elemant of risk - but crossing the road is risky - and do you know that most accidents happen in the home? He is on a professional tour run and supplied by professionals - he obviously has been planning this for months - he's not just thrown a backpack on and taken off into the hills. I fully respect and admire Marat in his choice - he WILL have a fantastic experience and whatever motivated him to go, I beleive he will ultimately benefit from the experience - "ultimately senseless"? to YOU, maybe - not to Marat.

As far as 'what has Marat to think about' - do you REALLY believe he is as one-dimensional as that?? if you think that what you observe of Marat tells anything like the whole story....LOL!

As for his career - it's his LIFE - he has dedicated himself to his career since he was sent off at 14 - if he wants to quit and do something completely different - ????? who says he can't or shouldn't - really, people, get a grip !! Marat is a human being not your own personal entertainment system - and I'm so glad that he is doing what he's doing because HE WANTS TO.







One dimensionality exists only in theory as a mathematical value. :)
As for the rest of the quote... :yawn:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
527 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

maybe some people here know him better than you think.


edit: i don't mean myself, don't get me wrong.
LOL! it's evident that there are PLENTY of people here who THINK they know him better than I think....sadly, their comments frequently indicate the opposite.Although I think your concerns are valid I personally do not think Marat IS stupid enough to take on something very much beyond him, and I'm sick of the tone of so many posts which are deeply insulting to Marat, in my opinion. I don't presume to 'know' or understand WHY he has decided to do it - I just think that he obviously needed to get away from Tennis and the howling 'fans' and if he IS using the opportunity to think about or make decisions on his future, well, good for him, and whatever he decides to do, I would express support and encouragement - but that's obviously my twisted notion of what 'supporting' someone is about!)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,011 Posts
Re: Marat news and articles

wow, so she went as a total "beginner". every tried climbing mont blanc?
Nope but am reading now blog written by some 47 years old guy,normal tourist without any experience in climbing high mountains( hiking only in Sudety,Beskidy and Tatra mountains before) who climbed Mt Blanc so i guess it's not that difficult.:p
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,596 Posts
Discussion Starter #20
Re: Marat news and articles

LOL! it's evident that there are PLENTY of people here who THINK they know him better than I think....sadly, their comments frequently indicate the opposite.Although I think your concerns are valid I personally do not think Marat IS stupid enough to take on something very much beyond him, and I'm sick of the tone of so many posts which are deeply insulting to Marat, in my opinion. I don't presume to 'know' or understand WHY he has decided to do it - I just think that he obviously needed to get away from Tennis and the howling 'fans' and if he IS using the opportunity to think about or make decisions on his future, well, good for him, and whatever he decides to do, I would express support and encouragement - but that's obviously my twisted notion of what 'supporting' someone is about!)
how about refraining from knowing other posters better than you think ? :rolleyes: look, let's stop judging other people's judgment or definition of 'supporting', or i can just foresee major editing by our beloved moderator...
everyone's entitled to think marat's acting stupid, or great, or worry like mad, or think it'll be a piece of cake, or a bit of all of this and more... let's just let everyone speak their mind, as long as noone here wishes marat evil (and that's not bound to happen here, right), what's the point of stirring a fuss :eek:

peace, i said
 
1 - 20 of 4751 Posts
Top