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I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information. After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, Islam remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3
http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

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Thank you :kiss: can somebody move this to Non-Tennis, please? :wavey:
 

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What's this got to do with the price of wool in China?
 

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From what I've read from different people who have converted to Islam, there are a few main reasons for most conversions:


1. Muslims and Christians agree that God is self-existent. This means that He does not derive his existence from anyone. Also they believe in Jesus, love him, and honor him. In fact, no Muslim can be a Muslim unless he or she believes in Jesus, on whom be peace.

The Quran teach that Jesus is prophet or messenger from Allah and not a God so Quran denies the divinity of Jesus. The Qur'an says that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he spoke while he was still only a baby, that he healed the blind and the leper by God's leave, and that he raised the dead by God's leave.


2. Islam is a religious lifestyle, not just a quick Sunday morning church visit and a label. Although some Christians do pray before each meal and spend much time with their Bible, etc.many don't in the USA. Islam is something that can't be shunted into a few spare hours. You pray five times a day. Your dress code is affected; even your food choices are explained in the Qur'an. Many converts like it because they feel actively involved and as if they are truly religious. Some people also studied Buddhism, flirted with Roman Catholicism or spent time with Quakers, but ultimately found them lacking.


3. For women, it is a big and welcome change from the "in your face" sexuality of western culture. Women are not required by the Qur'an to veil. They are required to dress modestly and it is *recommended* that they cover their hair. However, most do veil and some go farther with niquab (the face screen) or other traditional clothes. Women dressed like this consider themselves marked as religious women, not easy dates. They don't get hit on. No one gawks at their bodies. They are clearly off limits sexually and many that I personally know say it is liberating not to have to conform to western standards of sexy dress, makeup and spending so much time and money on appearance. You buy a five-dollar hijab, put your hair in a ponytail and cover, wear long skirt and a tunic shirt -you're set.


4. Islam is also growing because many people are not satisfied with Christianity. They feel it is too liberal, too fluid and changes for the culture. Islam on the other hand is more rigid and does not as a whole allow much for modern changes and the whims of society. Many like it because they feel other religions have loose standards.

A person like me who is unfamiliar with Islamic teachings might be surprised to hear that Islam is not a “religion” in the narrow sense used by secular humanists and does not rely upon blind faith to make its case, but rather, encourages to use minds for example, the Qur'an invites to ponder upon the wonders of creation, and challenges with intellectual arguments. Further study of the Qur'an demonstrates that sound reasoning and scientific knowledge confirm rather than contradict authentic revelation and its ability to satisfy the intellect whilst bringing peace to the soul. Also Islam deals with every aspect of life, spiritual and physical; its jurisprudence is based on a creed, instruction on worship, and ordinances regarding social, economic, and political aspects.

That's what I got from Islam-online & Islam way women's board and a few other friends of mine. Stats taken by many college groups say that women convert 4 times more often then men.
 

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A person like me who is unfamiliar with Islamic teachings might be surprised to hear that Islam is not a “religion” in the narrow sense used by secular humanists and does not rely upon blind faith to make its case, but rather, encourages to use minds for example, the Qur'an invites to ponder upon the wonders of creation, and challenges with intellectual arguments. Further study of the Qur'an demonstrates that sound reasoning and scientific knowledge confirm rather than contradict authentic revelation and its ability to satisfy the intellect whilst bringing peace to the soul. Also Islam deals with every aspect of life, spiritual and physical; its jurisprudence is based on a creed, instruction on worship, and ordinances regarding social, economic, and political aspects.

That's what I got from Islam-online & Islam way women's board and a few other friends of mine. Stats taken by many college groups say that women convert 4 times more often then men.
You are unfamiliar with Islam?:confused:

Personally I don't see it as a bad thing to spend time on your appearance.(both men and women):shrug:
 

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Women are taught from early childhood that their worth is proportional to their attractiveness. They feel compelled to pursue abstract notions of beauty,it is simply a woman's assertion that judgment of her physical person is to play no role whatsoever in social interaction. Feeling that one has to meet the impossible male standards of beauty is tiring and often humiliating. Women don't need to display themselves to get attention and won't need to defend their decision to keep their bodies to themselves.
 

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Women are taught from early childhood that their worth is proportional to their attractiveness. They feel compelled to pursue abstract notions of beauty,it is simply a woman's assertion that judgment of her physical person is to play no role whatsoever in social interaction. Feeling that one has to meet the impossible male standards of beauty is tiring and often humiliating. Women don't need to display themselves to get attention and won't need to defend their decision to keep their bodies to themselves.
I don't feel that way at all. It's just nice to get noticed from time to time.:D
 

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Women are taught from early childhood that their worth is proportional to their attractiveness. They feel compelled to pursue abstract notions of beauty,it is simply a woman's assertion that judgment of her physical person is to play no role whatsoever in social interaction. Feeling that one has to meet the impossible male standards of beauty is tiring and often humiliating. Women don't need to display themselves to get attention and won't need to defend their decision to keep their bodies to themselves.
I wasn't taught that. If you are speaking for yourself perhaps you should consider seeing a counsellor.
 

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You cannot steer people's personal faith. Islam is now a part of western culture, wheither you like it or not. It's not just for people in prison, or rock stars looking for a new thing. Some people just associate with Islam more than Christianity. That does for the other side of things too - 70% or so of Westerns are Christians, and although some don't like that, it's just the way it is. It's a fact, it can't be changed, and those people are entitled to follow their faith. Acts in the name of christianity have been responsible for some pretty fu***d up consequences in the last 100 years
 

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I don't know what is with you, people?!

Women are taught from early childhood that their worth is proportional to their attractiveness. They feel compelled to pursue abstract notions of beauty,it is simply a woman's assertion that judgment of her physical person is to play no role whatsoever in social interaction. Feeling that one has to meet the impossible male standards of beauty is tiring and often humiliating. Women don't need to display themselves to get attention and won't need to defend their decision to keep their bodies to themselves.
Yes, absolutely right! But, also, men are coming to deal with this problem lately, but still not as close.

You cannot steer people's personal faith. Islam is now a part of western culture, wheither you like it or not. It's not just for people in prison, or rock stars looking for a new thing. Some people just associate with Islam more than Christianity. That does for the other side of things too - 70% or so of Westerns are Christians, and although some don't like that, it's just the way it is. It's a fact, it can't be changed, and those people are entitled to follow their faith. Acts in the name of christianity have been responsible for some pretty fu***d up consequences in the last 100 years
This study is very interesting (where you're trying to find the reasons for converting) and I read something about it lately. You got the point.

Stats taken by many college groups say that women convert 4 times more often then men.
This is probably because they have to convert if they want to marry a Muslim. I read something about it:

http://www.jannah.org/sisters/intermarriage.html
 

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I really appreciate participating in your forum and will start my posting with new information. After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, Islam remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3
http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

Famous people too: Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world, story as told him:
http://www.mountainoflight.co.uk/talks_journey_4.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...sting+with+new+information&btnG=Google+Search

^You seem to go around a lot.

One of my favorite quotes on religion is by Thomas Jefferson:
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

All religion is basically superstition anyway.
 
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