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He won't drop lower than top 8 so the only question is can he stay within top 4? With 1000 to defend in Madrid and 600 in Rome, it's a big ask. So there might be a chance that Djokovic or Federer would meet Nadal in QF at RG.

Wow.
 

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He's probably going to fuck up everything and instead of losing to Djokovic in an epic final that finally makes Djokovic the RG Champion, he will lose to Djokovic in an epic QF match.
 

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He's probably going to fuck up everything and instead of losing to Djokovic in an epic final that finally makes Djokovic the RG Champion, he will lose to Djokovic in an epic QF match.
This might happen, the winner will be drained in the semis, Ferrer wins RG :lol:
 

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This might happen, the winner will be drained in the semis, Ferrer wins RG :lol:
Nope, Ferrer vultures against a tired Djokovic in another epic 5 setter. Then Vulturerer appears in the final and take it from a tired Daveed. :drool:

Everyone will be happy. Djoker finally beats Nadal at RG, Daveed finally beats Djokovic, Federer finally wins a Slam again. Seems fair enough to me. :drool:
 

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Djokovic should win no matter the seeding. I just hope Federer doesnt steal another FO. Federer was simply never the best claycourter during any period. :sad:
 

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Nope, Ferrer vultures against a tired Djokovic in another epic 5 setter. Then Vulturerer appears in the final and take it from a tired Daveed. :drool:

Everyone will be happy. Djoker finally beats Nadal at RG, Daveed finally beats Djokovic, Federer finally wins a Slam again. Seems fair enough to me. :drool:
 

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He won't drop lower than top 8 so the only question is can he stay within top 4? With 1000 to defend in Madrid and 600 in Rome, it's a big ask. So there might be a chance that Djokovic or Federer would meet Nadal in QF at RG.

Wow.

Maybe in someone else in QF?! Why in Federer? We have enough of their matches on clay! 15 Finals on clay b/w them are more than enough for every single human!!!
 

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He needs to do better than Raonic, Nishikori and Berdych in Madrid + Rome in order to be 4th. 4 through 7th could change each week from now until RG.

Nishikori will be either be 7th (QF loss), tied for 6th with Berdych (SF loss) or 5th (Final or better) after Barcelona. Berdych is dropping Final points (150) from Oieras, but it won't affect his point as his highest non-countable points is also 150. So before Madrid (with last years Madrid points still tacked on) we could have
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Nishikori QF loss:      Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390      4th Raonic    4980
5th Raonic    5070      5th Berdych   4780
6th Berdych   4960      6th Nadal     4390
7th Nishikori 4870      7th Nishikori 4270

Nishikori SF loss:      Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390      4th Raonic    4980
5th Raonic    5070      5th Berdych   4780
6th Berdych   4960      6th Nadal     4390
6th Nishikori 4960      7th Nishikori 4360

Nishikori F loss:      Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390     4th Raonic    4980
5th Nishikori 5080     5th Berdych   4780
6th Raonic    5070     6th Nishikori 4480 
7th Berdych   4960     7th Nadal     4390

Nishikori Win:         Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390     4th Raonic    4980
5th Nishikori 5280     5th Berdych   4780
6th Raonic    5070     6th Nishikori 4680 
7th Berdych   4960     7th Nadal     4390
Ferrer can come in this grouping if he wins Barcelona (he'd be ahead of Nadal in the 'Minus Madrid point column')
 

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Djokovic should win no matter the seeding. I just hope Federer doesnt steal another FO. Federer was simply never the best claycourter during any period. :sad:


Why do you talk BS always?! If Federer was not so good on clay he would not make 24 clay F' only to lose to Nadal. He tried again to win FO in 2011 and beat Djokovic in his best year in SF just to lose to Nadal again in Final. The same year 2011 Djokovic beat Nadal in Madrid and Rome but Federer was the one stopped him in SF. Nadal will give his life just to beat Federer because Nadal tried to catch Federer not Djokovic who is so far from both of them. It is very easy to talk here that Novak will win this and that but 6 GS or 9GS are so far from him.
Do the math 17>14>8 before talking. Last year we saw the same movie Ferrer,Almagro .Djokovic and who won FO ?! So let 's wait a bit please!
 

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4th or 5th...lets see
 

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He needs to do better than Raonic, Nishikori and Berdych in Madrid + Rome in order to be 4th. 4 through 7th could change each week from now until RG.

Nishikori will be either be 7th (QF loss), tied for 6th with Berdych (SF loss) or 5th (Final or better) after Barcelona. Berdych is dropping Final points (150) from Oieras, but it won't affect his point as his highest non-countable points is also 150. So before Madrid (with last years Madrid points still tacked on) we could have
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Nishikori QF loss:      Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390      4th Raonic    4980
5th Raonic    5070      5th Berdych   4780
6th Berdych   4960      6th Nadal     4390
7th Nishikori 4870      7th Nishikori 4270

Nishikori SF loss:      Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390      4th Raonic    4980
5th Raonic    5070      5th Berdych   4780
6th Berdych   4960      6th Nadal     4390
6th Nishikori 4960      7th Nishikori 4360

Nishikori F loss:      Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390     4th Raonic    4980
5th Nishikori 5080     5th Berdych   4780
6th Raonic    5070     6th Nishikori 4480 
7th Berdych   4960     7th Nadal     4390

Nishikori Win:         Minus Madrid points:
4th Nadal     5390     4th Raonic    4980
5th Nishikori 5280     5th Berdych   4780
6th Raonic    5070     6th Nishikori 4680 
7th Berdych   4960     7th Nadal     4390
Ferrer can come in this grouping if he wins Barcelona (he'd be ahead of Nadal in the 'Minus Madrid point column')
Of course Ferrer will win Barcelona, this year is becoming his wet dream Nadal losing early before metting him in all these tournaments.
 

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I'm telling you, we're destined for Federer's first demolition of Nadal at RG.
 

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He needs to do better than Raonic, Nishikori and Berdych in Madrid + Rome in order to be 4th. 4 through 7th could change each week from now until RG.

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Ferrer can come in this grouping if he wins Barcelona (he'd be ahead of Nadal in the 'Minus Madrid point column')
All the points before RG taken off:

1 Djokovic 12845
2 Federer 8375
3 Murray 5790
4 Berdych 4690
5 Raonic 4620
6 Nishikori 4270 (+410 for Barcelona title)
7 Ferrer 3950 (+320 for Barcelona title)
8 Nadal 3790
9 Wawrinka 3395

http://live-tennis.eu/forecast_atp_ranking
 

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All the points before RG taken off:

1 Novak Djokovic12845
2 Roger Federer 8375
3 Andy Murray 5790
4 Tomas Berdych 4690
5 Milos Raonic 4620
6 Kei Nishikori 4270
7 David Ferrer 3950
8 Rafael Nadal 3790
9 Stan Wawrinka 3395
The problem with going that far though is that there are two masters still to come, and points will be won then, this is why I only went to Madrid. Re-evaluate after Madrid with Rome points coming off and you get a clearer picture.
 
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