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Even Novak 6 titles in AO are better than Court's 11 titles..
Rafa of course.. better and harder competition and better player overall (same to Novak in AO)
 

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is this serious?

When Court played the aussie open, it was sort of an amateur national event rather than a professional international event.

Nadal's achievement at Roland Garros could well be the single greatest accomplishment in the history of tennis and I do not say that lightly- I am no Nadal tard.
 

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Nadal's achievement at Roland Garros could well be the single greatest accomplishment in the history of tennis
Of course it isn't. Nadal was the only clay court specialist of his era and vultured numerous RGs. Back in the 80s and 90s he would have had some real clay competition.
 

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Of course it isn't. Nadal was the only clay court specialist of his era and vultured numerous RGs. Back in the 80s and 90s he would have had some real clay competition.
Fed and Novak were formidable clay players in their prime when Nadal trounced them.

Kuerten, Courier, Bruguera, Muster, or Moya would actually have been underdogs vs them.
 

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Fed and Novak were formidable clay players in their prime when Nadal trounced them.

Kuerten, Courier, Bruguera, Muster, or Moya would actually have been underdogs vs them.
On paper Kuerten would give Nadal major issues on clay let alone Federer and Djokovic.
 

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Then he lost in the next round to Nalbandian. Can we stop pretending that so-called "clay specialists" before Nadal would have stood any chance of being rivals of Nadal on clay? He is not lucky that Kuerten and co didn't play in his era. They are lucky to have won what they did before the rise of Nadal.
 

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I knew you were going to serve me this 2004 Kuerten defeat.

Roger was still prone to bad perfs, like when Ancic took him out in the first rd of Wimbledon.

In the space of the ensuing 2005 year, he became a much more complete player: prime for prime, the Roger that lost all these RG finals to Nadal would have probably beaten any other clay specialist of the 90's, Kuerten included.
 
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