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If we take a look at Federer, Djokovic and Nadals careers, all three one of the greatest players to ever played the game, but IMV one of them never had their own era. That is Nadal. If we take a look at the numbers, Federer and Djokovic are the guys who has had their dominations/was the best over their field consistently.

Federer 2003-2009. Dominated consistently. Nadal had sporadic dominations during this time, like 2008. But during most of the time, he was by far the second behind Fed.

Then Djokovic came into the picture after Nadals 2010 stellar year, but he couldn't build on that. Djokovic took over. 156 weeks at #1, 8 slams, 3 YECs, 4 YE#1s out of 5 possible, by far the most masters, etcetra. Aswell as 4 straight ITF champions award. He has done all this over 5 seasons, consistently. Making him the man of tennis since 2011 (and counting) Same here, Nadal comes second to Djokovic. Nole has his own time, a time where you can call it the djokovic era, just like Federers. Nadal on the other hand, where can you find it?

what time could you possibly give him? I give him 2008, 2010 and 2013, but this is not being the best over your field. This is sporadic domination.

I have a hard time giving Nadal pros in the GOAT conversation. For me, when determening the best, you have to actually be the best.

What is your take on this?
 

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Rafa, support act extraordinaire.
 

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Nadal never had his own era = an injury-marred Nadal prime/peak was played in one of the strongest tennis era of all time, especially at the top (2008-2013)

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He was unlucky to come between the Federer era (2003-2009) and the Murray era (2010-2017).

But he'll still go down as the best player of the century so far aside from those two.
 

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2003-2009: Federer Era. OK, Nadal has won 6 slams in that span and has beaten Federer in all of them. Hard court, grass court, clay court.
 

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Yall tards (Fed/Djoko's) should thank your lucky stars Nadal was injury prone, or he would have already made a mockery of the Slam record :lol:
 

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2003-2009: Federer Era. OK, Nadal has won 6 slams in that span and has beaten Federer in all of them. Hard court, grass court, clay court.
Okey, what you gonna do next is check Federers numbers during those year.
 

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Yall tards (Fed/Djoko's) should thank your lucky stars Nadal was injury prone, or he would have already made a mockery of the Slam record :lol:
Injury prone cause he played a style of tennis that would put any human being/or player in a wheel-chair for the rest of their life. Face it, Nadal was fortunate to keep competing the way he did for so long. But he could never be the man of the sport, cause of this. Wasn't as talented as Djokovic and Federer.
 

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Nadal on the other hand, where can you find it?

what time could you possibly give him? I give him 2008, 2010 and 2013, but this is not being the best over your field. This is sporadic domination.
Even 2008 is not so overly dominant overall:
Slams
SF, W, W, SF
Masters
SF, F, W, 2R, W, W, SF, SF, QF
He won Olympic Gold in Singles though.

His only year which I would call domination is 2010. 3 GS titles, 3 Masters titles, WTF final. Even there was no Olympics that year, he achieved a bit more than in 2008 and barring injury he could have beaten Murray, Cilic and Federer for the AO title.

In 2013 he only won 2 GS titles, 5 Masters. Djokovic won 1 GS, 3 Masters + WTF. That is slightly less from the biggest titles, but Nadal's 1st round loss at Wimby looks really bad there. No domination that year at GS level, he barely survived the RG SF clash with Djokovic as well.

All that is relevant if you consider the whole season, all surfaces altogether.
Nadal dominated the Euro spring clay seasons 2005-2013 mostly. That is his biggest legacy, beside his 9 RG titles.
 

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Nadal's era was Spring 2008 to Summer 2014. He won 11 Slams during that period to Djokovic's 5 and Federer's 5.
 

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Nadal didn't have an era of his own because he didn't deserve one. His RG tally inflates his standing in the sport. Without clay he'd never be considered one of the GOATs. He'd be a mid-level great like Becker and Edberg.
 

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If you put eras around ages, it's clear that the Nadal era never happened. Nadal, like McEnroe, Becker and Agassi never had an era.

Eras:

Connors/Borg/Lendl/Edberg/Sampras/Guga/Federer/Djokovic.
 

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I dont think Nadal, or any other player needs to have an era to be considered goat. Sure Fed had many years in domination, yet young Nadal still stole many titles from him, and after maturing and improving on all surfaces there was no competition, if Nole 2.0 didnt show up, Nadal would've dominated up to now, probably with less injuries too. Haters just want to kick him while hes low, but fact is he surpassed Fed long time ago, even if he never regains his form, that fact will never change.
 
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