Nadal has won 20 of the 60 GS hes played
1 - 20 of 22 Posts
Joined
·
2,548 Posts
GREAT achievement!!!
Joined
·
2,548 Posts
H2H also important (and divided by surface also)!
But who has a better H2H between Nadal and Djokovic?
Djokovic leads 29-27 yet Nadal leads 10-6 in GS. Not sure If its a stat that favours Djokovic much!
Joined
·
2,548 Posts
lead still...
In the context of the Big 3, on the surface that sounds amazing, but is it?
Nadal is almost guaranteed 1 slam a year, so that takes him to ~25% just like that. Djokovic and Federer therefore only realistically have the opportunity to win the other 3 each year while also having to contend with Nadal and greater competition relative to the surface.
This doesn't necessarily belittle the stat and it's not Nadal's problem that he's a clay court god, but it's another angle to look at it.
Nadal is almost guaranteed 1 slam a year, so that takes him to ~25% just like that. Djokovic and Federer therefore only realistically have the opportunity to win the other 3 each year while also having to contend with Nadal and greater competition relative to the surface.
This doesn't necessarily belittle the stat and it's not Nadal's problem that he's a clay court god, but it's another angle to look at it.
Joined
·
736 Posts
It's not a measurement for greatness but it's still a huge achievement!
Joined
·
112 Posts
Really impressive from Nadal.
Joined
·
1,663 Posts
Certainly, I don't care about that to be honest, but reading this, it must also be said that Nadal quickly withdraws when he does not feel too confident or physically ready to defend his chances outside RG.
And you don't need to have spent 30 years for that.
Djokovic played all slams from AO 2005 to US 2017 stop. (30 y)
And Federer, AO 2000 - RG 2016 (34)
Joined
·
517 Posts
Silly argument. You make it sounds as if they are just giving him the title without playing. The reason he is "almost guaranteed 1 slam a year" is his greatness. And greatness is what we are talking about here right.
Joined
·
3,024 Posts
Nadal has lost 38 of the 45 non-clay Slams he's played.
Joined
·
1,809 Posts
Federer not won USO since 08.
That's something i don't get It. Why fed have been so bad at the USO for the last 10 years? Just one final. Rafa, a clay courter, acording to some, won 4 times there since fed last title. That stat i don't understand.
Joined
·
1,663 Posts
Federer is practically retired. It would be more accurate to compare the ratios when Jokdal about to retire.
Joined
·
7,222 Posts
If it's the slams that matter most in determining greatness--and this has been the measure when "they" called Fed GOAT prematurely over a decade ago--then the lead is the GS is more significant. Djok has won more BO3.
Joined
·
7,222 Posts
Because he dominated before Djok and Rafa really came of age 2004-2007. There is no greater example of Fed's weak era "acheivements" than this.
Also they slowed USO down at some point.
Fed didn't win Ao for how many years? Seven. Then they sped up the courts and he won in 2017.
Rafa is not a "clay courter" btw. He is the greatest of all time on clay, but an all court player.
You don't have 7 fucking slams off clay and be a clay courter.
YOu have absorbed to much bullshit on this site. But I'm happy to set you straight.
1 - 20 of 22 Posts
Join the discussion
Join now to ask and comment!