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1. Most Majors ever at his age and almost certain to eclipse 20 as time on his side
2. Only ever player to win multiple majors on all 3 surfaces
3. Leading h2h against Federer and Djokovic at the majors 18-11
4. Most ever wins at one Major which is the hardest Major to win
5. Olympic Gold

2nd is Federer. Djokovic is probably 4th behind Sampras (not including Laver as tour was totally different) as Djokovic gets 2 Majors on his best surface. If Nadal Federer and Sampras all had 2 Majors on their best surface all three would have won way over 20 Majors.
 

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The whole ‘GOAT’ debate is subjective, especially while the big three are still active, but there’s one point you’ve made that’s just totally wrong. Sampras over Djokovic is ridiculous. Sampras was irrelevant on clay, Djokovic is probably top-5 all time on clay. And even on the other surfaces Djokovic has achieved more.
 

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Why do we have to see these same bs fanboy threads like everyday? I mean, it's fine to discuss about the Big 3, but at some point it just becomes annoying. There is some tennis to talk about that goes beyond Djokovic, Nadal or Federer. This stuff reminds me of the Ronaldo vs Messi childish debate, like wtf enjoy these champions without being toxic and without having an urge to write something about that every fucking day. You don't have to remind us that they're all great players - we know that. Yeah, this GOAT debate is the most toxic thing I've witnessed on this forum by far. Ikr this guy is a poor troll account, but there are also people here who are way too serious about the whole damn Big 3 thing.
 

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4. Most ever wins at one Major which is the hardest Major to
Frecnh Open is the 2nd easiest to win as out of the top 100 players in the world, only 5/10 are clay specialists.

2nd is Federer. Djokovic is probably 4th behind Sampras (not including Laver as tour was totally different) as Djokovic gets 2 Majors on his best surface. If Nadal Federer and Sampras all had 2 Majors on their best surface all three would have won way over 20 Majors.
In the 21st century, tennis is a sport which is mostly played on hardcourt (75/80% of the tennis courts around the world are hardcourt).
Djokovic's best surface is the most competitive one, he should feel unlucky.
 

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Greatest sore loser ever you mean.
 

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Frecnh Open is the 2nd easiest to win as out of the top 100 players in the world, only 5/10 are clay specialists.



In the 21st century, tennis is a sport which is mostly played on hardcourt (75/80% of the tennis courts around the world are hardcourt).
Djokovic's best surface is the most competitive one, he should feel unlucky.
You are right only a few of the current players are clay specialists. We have about 8 clay specialists in the current era, and those clay specialists are Rafa, Djokovic, Federer, Wawrinka, Murray, Zverev, Fognini, *Thiem.

If can't win a big title on clay, you ain't a clay specialist, brah. *Thiem gets a slack though and should be regarded as a clay specialist for making it to multiple clay major finals, despite not winning a big title on clay.
 

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Frecnh Open is the 2nd easiest to win as out of the top 100 players in the world, only 5/10 are clay specialists.



In the 21st century, tennis is a sport which is mostly played on hardcourt (75/80% of the tennis courts around the world are hardcourt).
Djokovic's best surface is the most competitive one, he should feel unlucky.
Rubbish. Clay is most prestigious surface as so few players can master it. Hard court is easy and its why Djokovic gets less kudos than Nadal.

Bottom line is Djokovic is still third in slam race despite having 2 Majors on his best surface. 4th of all time
 

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1. 0 WTF titles
2. Only #6 in weeks at #1, behind both Federer (#1) and Djokovic (soon to be #1)
3. Losing H2H against Djokovic
4. 0 Miami titles, 0 Shanghai titles, 0 Paris titles
5. 2/3 of his slams came at a surface that is only 1/4 of the slam surfaces

Riddle me this: How can a player that has been a second-best his whole carreer (2nd to Federer until 2010, 2nd to Djokovic since 2011) be the GOAT?

Nadal is indisputably the clay GOAT, and one of the top 3 players of all time. Not too shabby at all, and should be enough for his fans to celebrate. But I guess the tards will do what the tards do.
 

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Do we really need so many threads "discussing" who is the goat? This is getting sad
 

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1. 0 WTF titles
2. Only #6 in weeks at #1, behind both Federer (#1) and Djokovic (soon to be #1)
3. Losing H2H against Djokovic
4. 0 Miami titles, 0 Shanghai titles, 0 Paris titles
5. 2/3 of his slams came at a surface that is only 1/4 of the slam surfaces

Riddle me this: How can a player that has been a second-best his whole carreer (2nd to Federer until 2010, 2nd to Djokovic since 2011) be the GOAT?

Nadal is indisputably the clay GOAT, and one of the top 3 players of all time. Not too shabby at all, and should be enough for his fans to celebrate. But I guess the tards will do what the tards do.
Clueless post. Butthurd federer fan alert. Which poster are u on TTW lol 🤣🤣.

Reality time. WTF meaningless. M1000 level Nadal leads the pack.

Peak v peak v peak Nadal 19 Majors Djokovic 17 Majors Federer 7 Majors. Federer vultured a weak era but since 2008 has been a bunny of Nadal and Djokovic.

Djokovic resume far too hard court skewed. Nadal the most balanced resume. Only player with multiple slams on all surfaces.

Nadal is GOAT and by some distance. That is fact. Not opinion. Hehe
 

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How many threads are you guys gonna keep making over this shit? Listen to Rod Laver’s words (wise man) and you’ll realize there is no GOAT, just greatest of their generation. Can’t compare eras like Laver’s and Federer’s. Yeah I’m guilty of the GOAT debate too but not to this extent at least.
 

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How many threads are you guys gonna keep making over this shit? Listen to Rod Laver’s words (wise man) and you’ll realize there is no GOAT, just greatest of their generation. Can’t compare eras like Laver’s and Federer’s. Yeah I’m guilty of the GOAT debate too but not to this extent at least.
Federer fans started it. Now their hero is soon to be eclipsed by Nadal suddenely there is no GOAT.

Lmao. Too late. Nadal by Federer fans criteria is now GOAT.
 

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Clueless post. Butthurd federer fan alert. Which poster are u on TTW lol 🤣🤣.

Reality time. WTF meaningless. M1000 level Nadal leads the pack.

Peak v peak v peak Nadal 19 Majors Djokovic 17 Majors Federer 7 Majors. Federer vultured a weak era but since 2008 has been a bunny of Nadal and Djokovic.

Djokovic resume far too hard court skewed. Nadal the most balanced resume. Only player with multiple slams on all surfaces.

Nadal is GOAT and by some distance. That is fact. Not opinion. Hehe
This is completely nonsensical. How the hell does Federer lose 13 of his majors due to some "weak era" bs argument but Nadal gets credit for every single one of his even though several were won in the same "weak era"?
 

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I think that with his last 2 USO wins,Nadal really gave himself a shot to be the greatest.If he stayed at only 2W,1AO and 2 USO I think that his # of slams outside of clay would've been way too low for the GOAT status.
 

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This is completely nonsensical. How the hell does Federer lose 13 of his majors due to some "weak era" bs argument but Nadal gets credit for every single one of his even though several were won in the same "weak era"?
Because at least nadal beat Federer in that weak era pre 2008.

Anyway if Nadal gets 21 majors which is likely even federer fans have to admit what the rest of civilisation know...Nadal is GOAT. VAMMMOOOSSSS hehehehe
 

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Because at least nadal beat Federer in that weak era pre 2008.

Anyway if Nadal gets 21 majors which is likely even federer fans have to admit what the rest of civilisation know...Nadal is GOAT. VAMMMOOOSSSS hehehehe
Ah, I see. Nadal gets credit for beating Federer during the "weak" era but Federer gets no credit for his wins against Nadal during the same period. Ok...
 
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