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Nadal level on grass is the highest I ever seen from 2008-10, and his beaten both grass goats Federer-Djokovic even in Nadal 30s he makes two semi finals in a row 2018-19. 5 Wimbledon finals 3 in a row from 2006-08 two titles 2008-10, could even win a 3rd Wimbledon title next season there's no doubt Nadal one of greatest of all time on grass. Nadal even won 20 Wimbledon matches in a row from 2008-11 what do you guys think?
 

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Hell no. His serve and return are too weak on the surface. He can be exposed by servebots and ballbashers.

2015 Wimbledon final Djokovic was the highest grass peak ever.
 

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Hell no. His serve and return are too weak on the surface. He can be exposed by servebots and ballbashers.

2015 Wimbledon final Djokovic was the highest grass peak ever.
You ruined your post with this bullshit cause your first paragraph is spot on. Sampras has the highest peak on grass, no ifs and buts.
 

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You ruined your post with this bullshit cause your first paragraph is spot on. Sampras has the highest peak on grass, no ifs and buts.
Nope. That was otherworldly. Servebotting? Check. Returning like a god? Check. Hitting deep, powerful and accurate groundstrokes? Check. Defending and moving amazingly? Check.

Novak didn't have a weakness.
 

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Nope. That was otherworldly. Servebotting? Check. Returning like a god? Check. Hitting deep, powerful and accurate groundstrokes? Check. Defending and moving amazingly? Check.

Novak didn't have a weakness.
Yes he does all of the those besides the serve. His serve is good but nowhere near the level of say Sampras. Peak Sampras took the racquet out of your hands and rendered opponents helpless. Faker doesn’t have the ability to do that.
 

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Novak only had one fewer ace than Federer in that match. How often does that happen and especially on grass?

And the thing is, this was a vintage Federer performance too. He only got broken one time prior to the final and annihilated Murray.
 

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Sampras may have had some advantage in service game here but Novak probably trumps him in most other categories. Meanwhile, lol everyone ignores the main topic of this silly thread.
 

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Novak only had one fewer ace than Federer in that match. How often does that happen and especially on grass?

And the thing is, this was a vintage Federer performance too. He only got broken one time prior to the final and annihilated Murray.
It’s clear Federer didn’t play as well against Faker as he did against Murray. Federer also isn’t as good of a server as Sampras.
 

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He didn't play as well because Djokovic was utterly flawless and thus didn't let him, lol. He also took the serve out of his hands by returning the ball at his feet.
 

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Sampras may have had some advantage in service game here but Novak probably trumps him in most other categories.
I’ll admit Faker on today’s grass could very well beat Sampras but on real grass, Sampras would clap them cheeks so hard that they’ll still be bouncing hours after the match.
 

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He didn't play as well because Djokovic was utterly flawless, lol. He also took the serve out of his hands by hitting the ball at his feet.
Well it was 2015ovic and the grass was pretty slow so I’ll let you have this one.
 

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Novak only had one fewer ace than Federer in that match. How often does that happen and especially on grass?

And the thing is, this was a vintage Federer performance too. He only got broken one time prior to the final and annihilated Murray.
That semi against Murray was vintage Rogie. One of his 3 best matches on serve of his entire career easily. I felt really confident that he would win the final and then Nole handled him fairly comfortably
 

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That semi against Murray was vintage Rogie. One of his 3 best matches on serve of his entire career easily. I felt really confident that he would win the final and then Nole handled him fairly comfortably
Agreed. And he only got broken once prior to the final. So, he didn't just dominate Murray. That Wimbledon was peak Federer, but it still wasn't nearly enough against Djokovic, who was from another planet.
 

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Yes he does all of the those besides the serve. His serve is good but nowhere near the level of say Sampras. Peak Sampras took the racquet out of your hands and rendered opponents helpless. Faker doesn’t have the ability to do that.
Every single time you guys reply to bhdtl, you walk into the same trap.
 
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