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Has anyone in tennis history been at no.2 position more than Rafael Nadal ?
How many weeks is that now , and it looks like he is gonna set up record that nobody will ever break.
 

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This is hardly news.

Nadal will get his 250th week as #2 next week. The player with most weeks as #2 apart from him is Boris Becker with 136, or possibly John McEnroe who could have as many as 147. Not all of the early ones are confirmed.
 

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number 2 goat :bowdown:
 

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Nothing new here.

Rafa is the #2, after the GOAT. :hug:
 

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It's a known fact that Nadal fights stronger than ever when he is at the #2 position in the ATP Association of Tennis Professionals Emirates ATP ranking system.

VAMOS KING OF SWING, ROCKET RAFA.
 

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"All-time" is impossible to answer. Even in the 1970s/early 1980s ATP rankings were not released every week I think.
 

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More important than weeks at #2 is weeks in top 2. Nadal has a chance to surpass Federer in that regard in February 2015.
 

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More important than weeks at #2 is weeks in top 2. Nadal has a chance to surpass Federer in that regard in February 2015.
LOLLLLL so

300 weeks at #2 + 150 at #1 is better than
400 weeks at #1 ?

For example ...
 

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No, why would you say that?
Because you said that Nadal can overtake Federer in Top 2 weeks but they were saying that's insignificant when Federer is ahead in Number 1 weeks.
 

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If that's where he "fights stronger than ever," why does he end up spending so much time there? :bs:
250 weeks at #2, like 150 or however many weeks at #1, obvs he spends a lot of time in both positions
 

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Nadal fans talk about h2h with Federer to proclaim Nadal's the Goat. But there is another stat that is definitely more telling and overall important… ranking. Rafa has been the eternal n#2, first to Federer and now to Djokovic. How can he be considered the Goat if he can't even hold the number 1 ranking in his prime? Not trying to start another tard war here, but just pondering a basic truth. :shrug:
 

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Nadal fans talk about h2h with Federer to proclaim Nadal's the Goat. But there is another stat that is definitely more telling and overall important… ranking. Rafa has been the eternal n#2, first to Federer and now to Djokovic. How can he be considered the Goat if he can't even hold the number 1 ranking in his prime? Not trying to start another tard war here, but just pondering a basic truth. :shrug:
What a tardish post :spit:

Novak and GOAT simply don't belong in the same paragraph. When and if he ever approaches Nadal's number of major then we can tentatively start talking. Meanwhile :bigwave:
 

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Nadal fans talk about h2h with Federer to proclaim Nadal's the Goat. But there is another stat that is definitely more telling and overall important… ranking. Rafa has been the eternal n#2, first to Federer and now to Djokovic.

Rafa has been #2 to Djokovic just like Djokovic has been #2 to Rafa.
 

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Nadal fans talk about h2h with Federer to proclaim Nadal's the Goat. But there is another stat that is definitely more telling and overall important… ranking. Rafa has been the eternal n#2, first to Federer and now to Djokovic. How can he be considered the Goat if he can't even hold the number 1 ranking in his prime? Not trying to start another tard war here, but just pondering a basic truth. :shrug:
He did hold number 1 during both his peaks and even for several months once he was clearly past his overall prime.

As for why his ranking history is what it is: he came on tour at the end of an all-time great's prime and is now past his own prime with another all-time great at the end of their own prime. Timing matters here. It also needs to be pointed out that the tour's points allocation heavily favors players who prefer HC and that slams, especially slam titles, give out less points than they should. Djokovic for example is computer number 1 ATM, but there's no way in hell he wouldn't trade his previous year's results for Nadal's. A lot of the way the ranking system is designed is quite simply more about protecting the relevance of the Masters, 500's, etc rather than objectively determining the best player in the world during the previous year.
 

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He did hold number 1 during both his peaks and even for several months once he was clearly past his overall prime.

As for why his ranking history is what it is: he came on tour at the end of an all-time great's prime and is now past his own prime with another all-time great at the end of their own prime. Timing matters here. It also needs to be pointed out that the tour's points allocation heavily favors players who prefer HC and that slams, especially slam titles, give out less points than they should. Djokovic for example is computer number 1 ATM, but there's no way in hell he wouldn't trade his previous year's results for Nadal's. A lot of the way the ranking system is designed is quite simply more about protecting the relevance of the Masters, 500's, etc rather than objectively determining the best player in the world during the previous year.
I don't agree that slams are the end all of tennis achievements. Of course they are the most prestigious titles, but it takes a lot to win a Master1000 and Djokovic has been more regular than Nadal in that regard. I don't agree Nadal is past his prime, he's the same age as Djokovic and thus he competes with contemporaries. If we are talking about timing, Novak's is the worst. So i don't buy that argument.
 

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He did hold number 1 during both his peaks and even for several months once he was clearly past his overall prime.

that the tour's points allocation heavily favors players who prefer HC and that slams, especially slam titles, give out less points than they should. Djokovic for example is computer number 1 ATM, but there's no way in hell he wouldn't trade his previous year's results for Nadal's. A lot of the way the ranking system is designed is quite simply more about protecting the relevance of the Masters, 500's, etc rather than objectively determining the best player in the world during the previous year.
Not sure I entirely agree with this.

Players that can hold n1 for long periods excel on all surfaces. Nadal has had a tougher time with this, to actually go along with your HC point, because he is not as a complex all surface player as Federer or Djokovic; bar couple of really great years vast majority of his points were accrued on clay.
 
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