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3 were convicted of her killing including her roommate Amanda Knox. At first I thought may be they are innocent, but I read about the case and there are many evidences that link them to the savage murder and sexual violence of poor Meridith. :sad:

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C378/

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Old news Sweetie; what made you bring it up? The appeal trails?

I have not read too much about it because the media turned it into such a tabloid experience which I find appalling. More appalling is the fact that Mr Guede, who I think had the most DNA evidence against him, had his sentence decreased to 16 years. He took someone's life and all he will do is 16 years. As a parent I feel for Meredith's parents.
 
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The American media have been pathetic hypocrites from beginning to end in this case. Absolute tools of the highest order.

After Troy Davis, they have no business complaining about someone who has FAR more evidence pointing in her direction than Mr Davis ever did in his case.
 

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The American media have been pathetic hypocrites from beginning to end in this case. Absolute tools of the highest order.
Any specific examples?

The chauvinistic Italian prosecution doesn't do itself any favors calling Knox a "she-devil".

After Troy Davis, they have no business complaining about someone who has FAR more evidence pointing in her direction than Mr Davis ever did in his case.
You served on the Davis jury?
 

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Any specific examples?

The chauvinistic Italian prosecution doesn't do itself any favors calling Knox a "she-devil".
The prosecution yes, not the media. What do you expect the prosecution to do? Every court case they'll stick the knife in to the defendant, fairly or unfairly.

The American media has insisted Knox is innocent for years despite evidence to the contrary. If it was a male, there'd be less of a fuss made about it.

The Italian justice system is an EU one. It's not much different to here. Western, liberal and relatively fair.

The witnesses saying they were tortured by police in the Davis case should have been the cue to re-open the case.

Land of the free? Nah just another barbaric justice system akin to Saudi and Iran.
 

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Old news Sweetie; what made you bring it up? The appeal trails?

I have not read too much about it because the media turned it into such a tabloid experience which I find appalling. More appalling is the fact that Mr Guede, who I think had the most DNA evidence against him, had his sentence decreased to 16 years. He took someone's life and all he will do is 16 years. As a parent I feel for Meredith's parents.
I just found about the case this week.
Guede asked for a fast trial, which made his sentence less.
Guede is the one with many DNA material in the room, but Knox was the one that lived with Meridith, how can someone betrayal her roommate like that?
Also, if you read the report in the first post, you will be surprised by the evidence.
 

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The prosecution yes, not the media. What do you expect the prosecution to do? Every court case they'll stick the knife in to the defendant, fairly or unfairly.

The American media has insisted Knox is innocent for years despite evidence to the contrary. If it was a male, there'd be less of a fuss made about it.

The Italian justice system is an EU one. It's not much different to here. Western, liberal and relatively fair.

The witnesses saying they were tortured by police in the Davis case should have been the cue to re-open the case.

Land of the free? Nah just another barbaric justice system akin to Saudi and Iran.
They weren't tortured by the police, they were suspects in a murder case, the police tried to get the truth out of them firmly. What are they supposed to do? Give them time till they find the perfect lie? Comfort them? The police wanted them to feel that way, they wanted them to feel confused, scared to death, to be able to get as many thoughts from them as possible, while they are still in that confused state, which lower your mind defense mechanisms to tell many lies, or at least, you are not going to tell an organized lie, just stupid thoughts that could tell many things. If Knox had an alibi, she wouldn't have spent one minute with the police. But she was there in that house, When Meridith was being tortured!!!
 

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The prosecution yes, not the media. What do you expect the prosecution to do? Every court case they'll stick the knife in to the defendant, fairly or unfairly.
If the prosecution in the Casey Anthony case had called her a "she-devil" and "Jessica Rabbit" they would've rightly been laughed out of court. There's no room for that kind of medieval chauvinistic talk in the court system.

Knox is a foreigner being tried by a bunch of old Italian men who probably whack off to her photos every night thinking "she-devil she-devil ooohhh wicked man-eater makes me hot".....


Personally, I do believe that Knox is in some way involved in the murder but the Italian media demonizing her as a 'Jezebel' makes me shake my head at how she's caught up in a kangaroo court system.

The American media has insisted Knox is innocent for years despite evidence to the contrary. If it was a male, there'd be less of a fuss made about it.
That's strange because I live in the US and I don't recall the media insisting that she's innocent, just that there isn't enough evidence to tie her to the murder.

The witnesses saying they were tortured by police in the Davis case should have been the cue to re-open the case.
Sorry, there's nothing to say to this but laugh.

Land of the free? Nah just another barbaric justice system akin to Saudi and Iran.
Lolz, UK education fail. Glad the US doesn't have your problems.
 

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They weren't tortured by the police, they were suspects in a murder case, the police tried to get the truth out of them firmly. What are they supposed to do? Give them time till they find the perfect lie? Comfort them? The police wanted them to feel that way, they wanted them to feel confused, scared to death, to be able to get as many thoughts from them as possible, while they are still in that confused state, which lower your mind defense mechanisms to tell many lies, or at least, you are not going to tell an organized lie, just stupid thoughts that could tell many things. If Knox had an alibi, she wouldn't have spent one minute with the police. But she was there in that house, When Meridith was being tortured!!!
They weren't suspects, they were WITNESSES. And you don't torture a witness until they say what YOU want them to say.

And yeah I think Knox is probably guilty. I actually think Guede had less input than the other two.

Knox's reputation stems from her trying to pin the murder on some Lumumba guy who had fuck all to do with it.
 

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Lolz, UK education fail. Glad the US doesn't have your problems.
Says your country who continues to moan about Megrahi being let go despite the fact the British victims' families believe it was the correct decision because they didn't believe for one second he did it.
 

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They weren't suspects, they were WITNESSES. And you don't torture a witness until they say what YOU want them to say.

And yeah I think Knox is probably guilty. I actually think Guede had less input than the other two.

Knox's reputation stems from her trying to pin the murder on some Lumumba guy who had fuck all to do with it.
Patting someone in her head with your palms which isn't going to leave any physical damage during an investigation isn't torture. It's a way to show she is in deep problem cause she doesn't have an alibi, and needs to talk.
If you think that there is going to be an investigation of such a murder with investigators chatting politely with witnesses and suspects, while listening to Tchaikovsky in the background you are wrong. It doesn't go that way in any country. And Police always treat that cases in harsh ways. Not torture, but firm and harsh, with an intention to pressure everyone, without force indeed.
 

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She wasn't a pretty, blonde American girl, so nobody over here cares. Joran probably did it, but she probably deserved it.
 

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i dont see her smiling and loving all the attention walking into the court room like she was at first, anymore is she?

stinking bitch better rot in prison

typical youngster of a rich family, think they can get away with anything

yank media can go and fuck themselves as well, crying over their little innocent all American girl :awww:
 

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Its a difficult one - I don't know whether she did it or not but her behaviour was contradictory to say the least. However the police evidence appears to be incredibly flawed and the scientific evidence inaccurate and on the basis of that they shouldn't uphold those convictions.

I feel very sorry for Meredith's family most of all they may never find out what really happened that night.
 

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I've been intrigued by this case - I went to the same University as Meredith Kercher, and one of my friends' girlfriends knew her.

Firstly I think it's a little unfair to say that all judicial systems in EU countries are comparable - they most definitely aren't, nor are their cultures. Italy seems to be particularly prone to male chauvinism - just look at everything that Silvio Berlusconi has been accused of (accusation shouldn't be a tool for making judgement, but even if you just look at things he's said and admitted to he'd have got absolutely slaughtered in somewhere like the UK or the USA).

In this case it's often seemed that the Italian judicial system bears resemblance to some kind of theatrical performance. The conduct of the media has been disgraceful too, and one of Amanda Knox or the Italian police must've acted in bad faith - either there's been police brutality or false accusations of it.

I reserve judgement on whether they're guilty or not, i'm slightly inclined to think they're guilty but then I don't know all the facts of the case.

In the meantime i'll sit here feeling guilty for being a sucker for the media frenzy surrounding the case :devil:

p.s. The ridiculous comment saying that the US is as barbaric as Saudi Arabia and Iran really made me laugh. Thanks for that :)
 

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She pointed the finger at Patrick Lumumba, her boss at the restaurant she worked at.

That sums her up.
 

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A former girlfriend of mine was also an English erasmus student in Perugia at the time of the incident, she knew Kercher and had to leave town after that on advice of the British embassy. She wouldn't say a word of it though no matter how you asked. I'm not making this up...

It's pretty sad however how too often cases like this become real world soap operas... people can be very cruel and insensitive at times. I hope this girl's murderers spend the rest of their lives behind bars.
 

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p.s. The ridiculous comment saying that the US is as barbaric as Saudi Arabia and Iran really made me laugh. Thanks for that :)
Keep coming back to MTF then. The laughs will just keep coming - I promise.
 
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