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1. Will any of these top 5 leave the top 10 at the end of the year 2021? If so, which? ( 5 points for each correct player, -5 points for each incorrect player, 5 points for correctly guessing none, -5 for incorrectly guessing none)


2. Which player(s) outside the top 5, will make into the top 5 at the end of the year 2021? ( 5 points for each correct player, -5 points for each incorrect player, 5 points for correctly guessing none, -5 for incorrectly guessing none)


3. Which player(s) currently outside the top 10 will make it into the top 10 at year 2021's end? ( 5 points for each correct player, -5 points for each incorrect player, 5 points for correctly guessing none, -5 for incorrectly guessing none)


4. Finally, give your Top 10 ranked player list in order as of 2021 year end:

.....At the end of 2021:

.....Give yourself 1 point for each player you named getting in the top 10.
.....Give yourself 10 points for each player's position you get exactly right.
.....Give yourself 5 points for each player you got within 1 position of what you picked (but not exactly right)

Get your final entries in prior to Feb 1, 2021. (you can post after Feb 1st, but they won't count for the contest purposes)


Good luck,
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Seems like a lot of work.

ill go with Djokovic, Nadal, Thiem, Medvedev, Zverev,Tsitsipas, Schwartzman, Dimitrov, Rublev, and Sinner...not necessarily in that order
Assuming no injuries/scandals and a relatively full season
 

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Looks like it can all be answered in one.

Without any thought put into it:

1. Medvedev
2. Tsitsipas
3. Djokovic
4. Thiem
5. Nadal
6. Zverev
7. Rublev
8. Raonic
9. ADM
10. Shapovalov

Wildcards: Nishikori, Kyrgios, FAA, Federer, Sinner

Feel the Canadian trio will have an even better year. ADM will crack the top 10 but be a gateway type. I'm not particularly a fan of Tsitsipas, but will take the gamble on him starting to make his move. Don't think Federer will play regular top 10 tennis anymore. Predicting Thiem will get injured, Zverev has a bit too much going on right now to confidently back. Rublev will make some slam/masters progress but also lose some lesser tournament ranking points and remain best of the rest.

But essentially, the top 6 could be in any order (I wouldn't be too surprised if any of them finished #1), and the bottom 4 as well. You could flip them and I wouldn't complain.

2021 will probably be similar to 2020, in that you need to be flexible, consistent, find momentum where you can. Established players with deep reserves to call on in tough matches stand to do well, which is why a fit Diego or RBA might find themselves back in the 10 with a handy slam run here or there. The latter who recently lost his parents is now a father and turning 33 this year, so might see it as a last big year. Fit Nishikori might find it a little harder to rise up the rankings than he did in 2018.
 
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Much of the same.

Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Thiem, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Rublev, Humbert, Shapovalov, Sinner

If its a full season: Sinner. If Raonic is healthy throughout, he could well be in.
 
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Well, that would be a more affordable exercise in a normal season with a regular ranking.

But here we still have a point freeze extended until March, points already acquired for some players and a very difficult program to conceive beyond March with all the uncertainties for the future ... including a new points freeze. still extended.

That's all that ... except for a Race which starts at 0 pt at the start of the season.

As an example, it's difficult to go beyond Federer who played a tournament in 2020 with 720 pts and who is still top 5 with 6630 pts (x 9.2) and already guaranteed to keep 720 (AO 2020) +600 ( IW 2019): 1320 without playing.

Suffice to say that some positions in front of him are even better "armored".

For information, in this context, the entry ticket in the top 10 is 3085 Berrettini.
 

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There is obviously some uncertainty with Federer. Besides that, serious injuries barred, I would be surprised if any of the current top 8 dropped out of the top 10 this year, they seem to be quite consistently above the rest of the field. The other two spots are wide open. Here my guess:

1. Djokovic
2. Thiem
3. Medvedev
4. Nadal
5. Tsitisipas
6. Federer
7. Zverev
8. Rublev
9. Auger-Aliassime
10. Shapovalov
 

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Well, that would be a more affordable exercise in a normal season with a regular ranking.

But here we still have a point freeze extended until March, points already acquired for some players and a very difficult program to conceive beyond March with all the uncertainties for the future ... including a new points freeze. still extended.

That's all that ... except for a Race which starts at 0 pt at the start of the season.

As an example, it's difficult to go beyond Federer who played a tournament in 2020 with 720 pts and who is still top 5 with 6630 pts (x 9.2) and already guaranteed to keep 720 (AO 2020) +600 ( IW 2019): 1320 without playing.

Suffice to say that some positions in front of him are even better "armored".

For information, in this context, the entry ticket in the top 10 is 3085 Berrettini.
Excellent point. It appears that the longer the rankings protection lasts, the lesser the chance of significant movement among the top players.

'Some positions in front of him are even better "armored". '
Good point, for example, Novak Djokovic. He has the points from the 2020 ATP Cup (665 points), the Australian Open (2000), and Dubai (500) guaranteed. He doesn't even have to show up to have 3165 points for 2021, which is ahead of #10 Berrettini's total at the moment.. In fact, If his team were smart, he could play Acapulco the week of Mar 15, instead of Dubai the same week, and if he won Acapulco, he would have 3665 points, since he automatically retains Dubai's 500 points (they are not scheduled to drop until 2022-02-28). Those number of points alone in 2021 would put him above #9 Schwartzman's total at the moment.

We can carry it further. Let's say due to continued COVID restrictions, the ATP continues to protect points through Roland Garros. That would give him an extra 3400 points or so, plus what he could earn more in Miami, which means at least 7,000 points, which is good enough for #5 at the moment, prior to Wimbledon and the Olympics (if those events are even played).

Of course, this applies similarly for others; they hold whatever points they earned previously, the longer they extend the rankings protection.

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1. Federer


2. Tsitsipas


3. Raonic and de Minaur


4. Djokovic,Nadal,Thiem,Medvedev,Tsitsipas,Rublev,Zverev,Raonic,Federer, de Minaur
 
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1. Federer


2. Tsitsipas


3. Raonic and de Minaur


4. Djokovic,Nadal,Thiem,Medvedev,Tsitsipas,Rublev,Zverev,Raonic,Federer, de Minaur
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Well these are pretty wild predictions given many of their have lengthy injury history. I know many of you might disagree but I am quite serious with this.

1. Grigor Dimitrov
2. Benoit Paire
3. Andy Murray
4. Milos Raonic
5. Novak Djokovic
6. Kei Nishikori
7. Bernard Tomic
8. Ernests Gulbis
9. Jerzy Janowicz
10. Jack Sock
 

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Well these are pretty wild predictions given many of their have lengthy injury history. I know many of you might disagree but I am quite serious with this.

1. Grigor Dimitrov
2. Benoit Paire
3. Andy Murray
4. Milos Raonic
5. Novak Djokovic
6. Kei Nishikori
7. Bernard Tomic
8. Ernests Gulbis
9. Jerzy Janowicz
10. Jack Sock
Where's Ryan Harrison? What a fail to miss out on this legend of the sport.
 

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1. Djokovic
2. Thiem
3. Nadal
4. Tsitsipas
5. Medvedev
6. Zverev
7. Federer
8. Sinner
9. Shapovolov
10. Auger-Alliassime
 
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OK, let's play:

1. Djokovic
2. Thiem
3. Nadal
4. Medvedev
5. Tsitsipas
6. Rublev
7. Zverev
8. Federer
9. Sinner
10. Auger-Aliassime
 

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Looks like it can all be answered in one.

Without any thought put into it:

1. Medvedev
2. Tsitsipas
3. Djokovic
4. Thiem
5. Nadal
6. Zverev
7. Rublev
8. Raonic
9. ADM
10. Shapovalov

Wildcards: Nishikori, Kyrgios, FAA, Federer, Sinner

Feel the Canadian trio will have an even better year. ADM will crack the top 10 but be a gateway type. I'm not particularly a fan of Tsitsipas, but will take the gamble on him starting to make his move. Don't think Federer will play regular top 10 tennis anymore. Predicting Thiem will get injured, Zverev has a bit too much going on right now to confidently back. Rublev will make some slam/masters progress but also lose some lesser tournament ranking points and remain best of the rest.

But essentially, the top 6 could be in any order (I wouldn't be too surprised if any of them finished #1), and the bottom 4 as well. You could flip them and I wouldn't complain.

2021 will probably be similar to 2020, in that you need to be flexible, consistent, find momentum where you can. Established players with deep reserves to call on in tough matches stand to do well, which is why a fit Diego or RBA might find themselves back in the 10 with a handy slam run here or there. The latter who recently lost his parents is now a father and turning 33 this year, so might see it as a last big year. Fit Nishikori might find it a little harder to rise up the rankings than he did in 2018.
Of course you would put de Minaur. He's got so many weapons...........
 

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he could play Acapulco the week of Mar 15, instead of Dubai the same week, and if he won Acapulco, he would have 3665 points
Exactly, it is for this purpose that he preferred to play Vienna and skip Bercy last year.

Nothing irregular since the regulations allow it.

Each player can create an "à la carte" schedule according to the proposed menu of his frozen points or not.

In addition, with all the "special covid" tournaments that appear (Melbourne 1 and 2, last year St Pet in atp 500, Cologne 1 and 2, Pule, etc.), the choice is immense.
 
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