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Secondary question - which would cause more ruins?

On the one hand, Rafa played a great wimby last year - but his results for the past few years before that were very poor and his health is suspect this year

On the other hand, Rogie has only won French once and it was when Rafa was injured and he hasn’t played on clay in years

Thoughts?
 

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If not for cheatovic with the roof Rafa would have done the channel slam last year.
Rafa if healthy can still do a lot of damage on grass, if he doesn't draw a servebot early on.

A lot of decent clay courters can take Roger out.
I would say Rafa winning Wimbledon is far more likeley than Roger winning the French.
 

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If not for cheatovic with the roof Rafa would have done the channel slam last year.
Rafa if healthy can still do a lot of damage on grass, if he doesn't draw a servebot early on.

A lot of decent clay courters can take Roger out.
I would say Rafa winning Wimbledon is far more likeley than Roger winning the French.
uh, oh, Cheatovic :weirdo:. As far as I know Djokovic won fair and square.

oh, oh, is Rafa healthy or not? Give me a break. You play, you win or you lose. How difficult is that to understand? What's wrong with you people who are young? Are you born stupid :nerd:?
 

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Secondary question - which would cause more ruins?

On the one hand, Rafa played a great wimby last year - but his results for the past few years before that were very poor and his health is suspect this year

On the other hand, Rogie has only won French once and it was when Rafa was injured and he hasn’t played on clay in years

Thoughts?
The guy you're talking about is Nole, not Rogie.
 

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Nadal at wimby - because Rafa is soooo good on clay and although Roger is at worst one of the greatest grass court players of all time, if not the best but Rafa has only lost 2 matches at the French Open thus making it extremely hard for Federer to get a win, if he isn't stopped by Thiem or a rejuvenated Djokovic even though Federer might be able to beat Novak if he continues this form but we all know Djokovic only bothers with grand slams nowadays. There's always the possibility of a win from Fognini or someone like that, just like Millman and Tsitsipas have done. Even the door for Carballes Baena to beat him is open but surely Roger could get through someone like that.

On the other hand, Rafa has been known for losing early rounds at Wimbledon but if he gets a nice draw with no difficult s&v players in the first 4 rounds like he did last year, then he'll have to battle through some tough quarter-final and semi-final matches and has a shot at winning the final. In reality, it gets better for him as the tournament goes by since the surface isn't as slow and he has won more Wimbledons than Roger has and I think he is more likely to win the TOURNAMENT BUT isn't as likely to GET FURTHER due to the difficulty he has at the start to playing fast-surface specialists and Roger could always beat him in that at the FO but for the whole tournament Rafa is more likely to win at Wimbledon than Roger is at the French Open.
 

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Well The Master ... you should know it. Rafa winning both RG and SW17. I'm sure that's what you want to hear <img src="https://www.tennisforum.com/images/smilies/spit.gif" border="0" alt="" title="spit" class="inlineimg" />.

What will actually happen is another story /images/MensTennisForums_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png.
I’m a fed fan mate
 

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Nadal at wimby - because Rafa is soooo good on clay and although Roger is at worst one of the greatest grass court players of all time, if not the best but Rafa has only lost 2 matches at the French Open thus making it extremely hard for Federer to get a win, if he isn't stopped by Thiem or a rejuvenated Djokovic even though Federer might be able to beat Novak if he continues this form but we all know Djokovic only bothers with grand slams nowadays. There's always the possibility of a win from Fognini or someone like that, just like Millman and Tsitsipas have done. Even the door for Carballes Baena to beat him is open but surely Roger could get through someone like that.

On the other hand, Rafa has been known for losing early rounds at Wimbledon but if he gets a nice draw with no difficult s&v players in the first 4 rounds like he did last year, then he'll have to battle through some tough quarter-final and semi-final matches and has a shot at winning the final. In reality, it gets better for him as the tournament goes by since the surface isn't as slow and he has won more Wimbledons than Roger has and I think he is more likely to win the TOURNAMENT BUT isn't as likely to GET FURTHER due to the difficulty he has at the start to playing fast-surface specialists and Roger could always beat him in that at the FO but for the whole tournament Rafa is more likely to win at Wimbledon than Roger is at the French Open.
Thanks for the thoughtful answer, good analysis
 

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Federer winning French open is more likely, nobody is going to stop him except for Djokovic, who will be out before SF
 

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Rafa has zero chance of winning Wimbledon. USO 17 does not happen twice in a lifetime.

Fed winning French has nearly zero chance. So mathematically Fed has higher chance, but realistically none of them are doing either feat.
 

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Kind of feel neither possible to be honest. Rafa would go out to a huge server or djok. Fed could go out to a good grinder like or thiem or djok or nadal. So hard to see what is more likely
 

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More likely: Nadal winning Wimbledon
Most ruins: Nadal winning Wimbledon
 

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Why of course?
2012 was the last year Federer played decently in the French, close to zero chances now. Nadal could have won last year if a couple of balls went his way in the semis. 'Nuff said
 

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Nadal had a deep run last year and was stopped in that sublime see-saw SF that could've gone the other way easily, while Fed was missing in action from clay for years. Go figure :D
 
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