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If first we just accept clay domination and grass domination are ok.
Yup USO has more diversity, but still big3 already win 12. Especially Nadal is not that much known for hard court, since he hasn’t won 4 big hard court events.
AO is even more one-sided as you see. 2 players win 14.
Isn’t it (supposed to be) more depth on hard court, since maybe some more players can actually play on hard court?
 

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Well, it's also just bad luck for some, Del Potro has won USO and it would've certainly been different if he were fully healthy all these years. Nishikori made it to the final once and he too is injured all the time. Same for Andy Murray and so on. As they say in basketball, there's no ability like availability and that certainly applies to the Big 3 here.
 

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If first we just accept clay domination and grass domination are ok.
Yup USO has more diversity, but still big3 already win 12. Especially Nadal is not that much known for hard court, since he hasn’t won 4 big hard court events.
AO is even more one-sided as you see. 2 players win 14.
Isn’t it (supposed to be) more depth on hard court, since maybe some more players can actually play on hard court?
Well, don't you think the data shows that hardcourt has more players that can challenge for the big titles?

Slam winners on clay since 2005 outside of big three:

Stan Wawrinka:

Slam winners on grass since 2005 outside of big three:

Andy Murray

Slam Winners on hardcourt since 2005 outside of big three:

Marat Safin, Juan Martin del Potro, Andy Murray, Stan Wawrinka, Marin Cilic.

Granted, there are two chances on hardcourt each year but just one each on clay and grass. For fairness, we might wanna compare the number of hardcourt winners with the grass and clay winners added together. Still, there are more than twice as many hardcourt winners. Probably not a coincidence if you ask me.
 

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Well, don't you think the data shows that hardcourt has more players that can challenge for the big titles?

Slam winners on clay since 2005 outside of big three:
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Non-Big3 winner since 2004:

AO 2 (2005, 2014)
RG 2 (2004, 2015)
Wim 2 (2013, 2016), actually since 2003 and Federer's first title.
USO 4 (2009, 2012, 2014, 2016)
 

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Fed’s draws were easy jokes. Nadal choked horribly on the last Australian Open chance against Fed. Fedal weren’t good enough to play each other at the US Open and the last one was a joke draw for Nadal, even though he loves to talk about how unlucky he was with injuries.
 

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At first, It's "strange" to me how Novak has a lopsided W/L ratio at USO finals untiI anaIyzed a IittIe cIoser. 2007 & even 2010 couId b expIained by inexperience vs big 3 in BO5 majors & 2012 was cIearIy due to weather deIayed SF vs Ferrer, then stretching out a 5 set final vs the fresher Murray before emptying tank by the 5th set. That Ieaves us w/ 2013 & 2016 & how he Iet those 2 sIip through his racquet. One couId assume NadaI & Wawa were in their primes but Iosing 3 sets in a row after winning 1st set tiebreak in 2016 is either the biggest mentaI choke by Novak or the GOATest moment for Stan. I tend to think a combo of both. Now wouldn’t it b sweet redemption if he were to overcome Wadal in USO20 & go on to break Fed’s HC majors record in the process.
 

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In 2016, despite the hoopla about French Open, Novak was in hell physically.
Any top 40 journeyman would’ve beaten him. Last year, he was miserable and couldn’t stop being the secretive, perfect gentleman when he was questioned about his injury at the US Open. Talent was the only thing keeping him alert in the biggest Slams.
 
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