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Yeah Erdogan pushes them to Greece (one of our land border with EU, beside Bulgaria) since our economy is crumbling thanks to 4 million refugees (and counting following Assad's new offensive). Not sure this can be classified as declaration of war though? To which state? Greece? It will be funny in the history books, Greece declared war because Turkey sent the migrants to their borders haha. They are people, not secret bugs.

In the midst of this virus thing no sane states will be at war anyway.
 

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Yeah Erdogan pushes them to Greece (one of our land border with EU, beside Bulgaria) since our economy is crumbling thanks to 4 million refugees (and counting following Assad's new offensive). Not sure this can be classified as declaration of war though? To which state? Greece? It will be funny in the history books, Greece declared war because Turkey sent the migrants to their borders haha. They are people, not secret bugs.

In the midst of this virus thing no sane states will be at war anyway.
Your comment is solely based on 2nd video in which Turkey forced their illegal immigrants out for whatever reason, no objection in this case even when economy is in question.


But what happens when you force those immigrants out and proceed to assault Greek border, assisting illegal immigrants while they try and rip the border? You dont think this is a serious act of war or a declaration?
 

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Your comment is solely based on 2nd video in which Turkey forced their illegal immigrants out for whatever reason, no objection in this case even when economy is in question.


But what happens when you force those immigrants out and proceed to assault Greek border, assisting illegal immigrants while they try and rip the border? You dont think this is a serious act of war or a declaration?
mate there won't be any war, lots of covid cases in Greece and Turkey today. States mind their own business. Who cares.
 

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You completely missed the point even after my 2nd reply. As if Turkey would want a war with Greece, potentially whole Europe.
we will not attack a fellow NATO member, which is Greece. The border is fine now, those footages are from at least a week ago. Migrants are contained. Atm both countries help each other due to covid cases, medics/medical aid being sent in each direction, even today.

Oh, second video is bonkers btw, that guy is a civilian, not a turkish soldier as stated in the subs, he got locked up because of human trafficking two days ago.
 

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Yeah Erdogan pushes them to Greece (one of our land border with EU, beside Bulgaria) since our economy is crumbling thanks to 4 million refugees (and counting following Assad's new offensive). Not sure this can be classified as declaration of war though? To which state? Greece? It will be funny in the history books, Greece declared war because Turkey sent the migrants to their borders haha. They are people, not secret bugs.

In the midst of this virus thing no sane states will be at war anyway.
Greek government passing them on via atrocious maneuvers:
The Greek government has secretly expelled more than 1,000 refugees from Europe’s borders in recent months, sailing many of them to the edge of Greek territorial waters and then abandoning them in inflatable and sometimes overburdened life rafts.
[...] Illegal under international law, the expulsions are the most direct and sustained attempt by a European country to block maritime migration using its own forces since the height of the migration crisis in 2015, when Greece was the main thoroughfare for migrants and refugees seeking to enter Europe.

The Greek government denied any illegality.
[...] Greece believes that Turkey has tried to weaponize the migrants to increase pressure on Europe for aid and assistance in the Syrian War. But it has also added pressure on Greece at a time when the two nations and others spar over contested gas fields in the eastern Mediterranean.
For several days in late February and early March, the Turkish authorities openly bused thousands of migrants to the Greek land border in a bid to set off a confrontation, leading to the shooting of at least one Syrian refugee and the immediate extrajudicial expulsions of hundreds of migrants who made it to Greek territory.
 

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Well, Finland can take them all in, would it?
A lot of free space in Finland which has very low population per square km. But something tells me Finland would not be very willing to welcome their brothers from the Middle East. It looks good in social media. In real life it sucks.
 

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A lot of free space in Finland which has very low population per square km. But something tells me Finland would not be very willing to welcome their brothers from the Middle East. It looks good in social media. In real life it sucks.
Never very welcoming to outsiders, among the lowest inmigrant population in Europe. Too easy to judge from the 'comfort' of an empty country with a whole continent between them and the refugees (real and fake)
 

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Greek government passing them on via atrocious maneuvers:
Yeah Greeks used to pull these tactics a lot, but a very old news. Funny bump.

Turks, Greeks, Hungarians etc all being left alone by Northern and Western Europeans indeed. We cannot host these people for too long. You guys should have some of them.
 

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Yeah Greeks used to pull these tactics a lot, but a very old news. Funny bump.

Turks, Greeks, Hungarians etc all being left alone by Northern and Western Europeans indeed. We cannot host these people for too long. You guys should have some of them.
Actually they should stay in their own countries or if impossible go to fellow Muslim countries, the world's richest by the way (Qatar, UAE, KSA, etc) Europe isn't the best place for them. Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and others are doing the right thing not taking them in. Let Germany, Finland, Sweden, etc take the whole Middle East in if so they like instead of lecturing Greece or Hungary, what an hypocrisy.
 

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Actually they should stay in their own countries or if impossible go to fellow Muslim countries, the world's richest by the way (Qatar, UAE, KSA, etc) Europe isn't the best place for them.
Yeah but most don't flee war per se, and are economic migrants. So they would like to live in countries with the most opportunities, which is the West. As for those countries in the Gulf club, they absolutely despise Syrians, sectarian stuff. I see Saudi/Qatari families in the high street sometimes, walking with their Zara bags, and when they are being approached by Syrian kids, they freak out, lol.
 

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Yeah but most don't flee war per se, and are economic migrants. So they would like to live in countries with the most opportunities, which is the West. As for those countries in the Gulf club, they absolutely despise Syrians, sectarian stuff. I see Saudi/Qatari families in the high street sometimes, walking with their Zara bags, and when they are being approached by Syrian kids, they freak out, lol.
I know, it's 95% economic migration, that's precisely the reason why they should not be taken in so willy-nilly. There are procedures to inmigrate, taking borders by assault isn't one of them and should not be tolerated.

I've been in all Gulf petro-monarchies bar Oman and the racism against fellow Arabs from Egypt, Syria, etc (not to mention South Asians) is apalling, I've never seen anything remotely similar anywhere.
 

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Yeah but most don't flee war per se, and are economic migrants. So they would like to live in countries with the most opportunities, which is the West. As for those countries in the Gulf club, they absolutely despise Syrians, sectarian stuff. I see Saudi/Qatari families in the high street sometimes, walking with their Zara bags, and when they are being approached by Syrian kids, they freak out, lol.
Disgusting on so many levels. But as a rule I agree with Bakano - it’s much better for them to stay home and Europe should focus on helping these people to have better lives and better opportunities where they come from instead of „extinguishing the fires in Europe” and especially lecturing the border countries like Turkey or Greece what they should do and what is right or wrong.
 
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