[Johnny Groove]

How many more times do we have to see it? How many players have had injuries particularly to the off wrist when using a 2 handed BH?

Del Potro, Nadal, Bogomolov, myself, Kurt Pessa, I think one of the French, Monfils/Simon/Tsonga, at least one of them had some wrist issue at some point I remember, and that is all just off the top of my head, surely there are tons more, not to mention plenty of guys most people have never heard of.

So the question. Is the 2 hand BH more prone to wrist injury than the 1 handed BH? You never hear a 1 handed BH player with a wrist injury.

 

[Kat_YYZ]

This video is suggesting it's partly responsible for Nadal's knee injury too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2U7MIP7fg0

 

[Forehander]

I personally think YES. It is harder of the two types of backhand to master and you have to incorporate your non-dominant side. Without proper conditioning and technique it can result in a very wristy shot which normally result in wrist injuries.

Edit: for me personally also I've never had any wrist problems with two handed backhand but I find though because I at times on the run have to hit some open stance backhands so can be a little stressful on the knees.

 

[Arrow]

Del Potro, Nadal, Bogomolov, myself, Kurt Pessa, I think one of the French, Monfils/Simon/Tsonga

 

[Forehander]

Well he's asking a general question whether the 2 handed backhand is less kinesiological so it applies to anyone who plays tennis, pro or not.

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

Well he's asking a general question whether the 2 handed backhand is less kinesiological so it applies to anyone who plays tennis, pro or not.

He's calling himself a pro player though essentially. This is the 'general pro player section' and man says 'himself', after listing Juan Martin Del Potro and Rafael Nadal ... are you fucking with me? :superlol:

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

The other question is; is it worth learning how to hit a slice backhand, especially if you are one handed?

 

[Gilloulou]

I have the same problem now, how do I fix it that's more of an issue

 

[ClutchOn&Win]

This video is suggesting it's partly responsible for Nadal's knee injury too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2U7MIP7fg0

Interesting actually.

I've always said Nadal has artificially produced shots, they aren't natural motions and this proves my suspicion right.

 

[Cloren]

The other question is; is it worth learning how to hit a slice backhand, especially if you are one handed?

Well yeah obviously, but I don't get it, why did you ask? it has nothing to do with this topic.

 

[Forehander]

I have the same problem now, how do I fix it that's more of an issue

Which one of your wrist is in pain left or right?

I think it's important you should rest first because with wrist injury not much blood go there so self-healing is very slow. I personally have had TFCC tear around the Ulna area before from a rock climbing accident so I know it can be a pain in the ass. If your injury is mild you can try going to a physio see what they have to say and do some acupuncture it may relieve some pain and aid in the healing process. If it's bad though and you're worried you should go see a specialist. I had to stop playing tennis or any strenuous exercise for a whole year for the recovery. Only when you're pain free you should start playing again and slowly adjust to a new technique that is less prone to injury. Also it's really important too that you always stretch and warm up. A good habit to get into is buying yourself a elastic band to train the forearm/wrist. Clearly patience is required but good luck though!

 

[total_gamer1989]

Speaking from personal experience, I don't feel any extra pressure on the wrist while hitting 2 handed backhands. I certainly feel some twisty-ness of my left knee after a long day of play. Funnily, I know a guy who injured his non-dominant hand playing 2hbh.

The range of motion on a 2hbh is rather small, and the window/zone for making optimum contact is even smaller. Many a times, when players make contact outside the optimal window, but then have to compensate with sub-optimal hand and body positioning so that the ball doesn't fly out of the court or land in the net. While 1hbh has an equally small contact window, (but bigger range of motion) the compensation required is smaller for the torso, and arm.

1hbh is difficult to learn because small changes in the wrist, grip, swing, lead to big changes in the trajectory of the ball, but when off-balance, small changes give you the desired result. 2hbh is more consistent because you need to make a comparatively larger change in grip, swing, body positioning etc. to change the ball trajectory. Downside to this is, outside your strike zone, you really need to get twisty, to make sure the ball lands in the court.

 

[MDot]

Kat YYZ that is a great video, I have seen this already one of the best to understand Nadal's style of play. I also think this is the reason why Nadal has problems on grass nowadays.

Does anybody have an idea that what is the reason that Djokovic is as injury free as Federer in the last few years? His playing style is not much effortless than Nadal's.

The only reason I can think of is that he can win the first rounds easier, more effortless maybe? Does he have more free points?
The other idea of mine is that his FH is effortless unlike Nadal's spin machine, since 2011 he runs around his backhand more, maybe winning more feee points on his serve?

 

[Gilloulou]

Which one of your wrist is in pain left or right?

I think it's important you should rest first because with wrist injury not much blood go there so self-healing is very slow. I personally have had TFCC tear around the Ulna area before from a rock climbing accident so I know it can be a pain in the ass. If your injury is mild you can try going to a physio see what they have to say and do some acupuncture it may relieve some pain and aid in the healing process. If it's bad though and you're worried you should go see a specialist. I had to stop playing tennis or any strenuous exercise for a whole year for the recovery. Only when you're pain free you should start playing again and slowly adjust to a new technique that is less prone to injury. Also it's really important too that you always stretch and warm up. A good habit to get into is buying yourself a elastic band to train the forearm/wrist. Clearly patience is required but good luck though!

Thank you for the info. I'm a right hander and my left wrist is in pain for 6 months now, though gradually reducing. In the beginning Of couldn't even lift a grocery bag. But when hitting a double hander, especially if it is more loopy it hurts a lot. The x-ray didn't find anything so basically I'm just letting it rest or play 1 hander, hoping it would be better. But you're saying a whole year...
Funny thing is I'm pretty sure that this stupid smartphone aggravated the condition.
would squeezing a power help or further injure?

 

[Uncle Latso]

to the left wrist for sure.

 

[Han Solo]

This video is suggesting it's partly responsible for Nadal's knee injury too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2U7MIP7fg0

Was this made in 2013? It mentions his recent return from seven months out. Of course, two weeks after this was made he was again RG champion, so the knees held up pretty well, and have continued to do so. Or is there any connection between his knee issues and the back problem he developed last season?

So it appears from that video that two-handed backhand can make you more injury prone as more stress is placed on body, more rotation of torso, more pressure on left/right knee for right/left-hander. Interesting.

 

[Han Solo]

Kat YYZ that is a great video, I have seen this already one of the best to understand Nadal's style of play. I also think this is the reason why Nadal has problems on grass nowadays.

Does anybody have an idea that what is the reason that Djokovic is as injury free as Federer in the last few years? His playing style is not much effortless than Nadal's.

The only reason I can think of is that he can win the first rounds easier, more effortless maybe? Does he have more free points?
The other idea of mine is that his FH is effortless unlike Nadal's spin machine, since 2011 he runs around his backhand more, maybe winning more free points on his serve?

Don't forget that Djokovic is much more lithe and supple. His body is more flexible due to his focus on this in his training. Nadal, especially when he started his meteoric rise circa 2005, looked far heavier, more muscular, almost like a boxer. I think this physiological difference plays a part.

 

[MDot]

Was this made in 2013? It mentions his recent return from seven months out. Of course, two weeks after this was made he was again RG champion, so the knees held up pretty well, and have continued to do so. Or is there any connection between his knee issues and the back problem he developed last season?

So it appears from that video that two-handed backhand can make you more injury prone as more stress is placed on body, more rotation of torso, more pressure on left/right knee for right/left-hander. Interesting.

Playing on clay is different, high bouncing means he doesnt have to bend his knees that much. The problem on lower bouncing surfaces (wimvledon ) are much more obvious.

 

[Disintegrator]

Was this made in 2013? It mentions his recent return from seven months out. Of course, two weeks after this was made he was again RG champion, so the knees held up pretty well, and have continued to do so. Or is there any connection between his knee issues and the back problem he developed last season?

So it appears from that video that two-handed backhand can make you more injury prone as more stress is placed on body, more rotation of torso, more pressure on left/right knee for right/left-hander. Interesting.

Clay is much softer. Before people go berserk I'm not even remotely trying to compare myself to professional tennis players but I do know from my own epxerience that after I injured my leg I could easily play on clay but the leg was very sore after playing on hard.

 

[Uncle Latso]

i picked up a knee injury from playing golf. The twisting of the left leg, while it's straight made it over stretch the side cross ligaments of the knee and inflamed them.

Just saying.