Mens Tennis Forums banner

1 - 20 of 39 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,009 Posts
he was not the most overrated because he has real weapons that go along with a damaged head (inside and out). Still the hype was bigger than his real abilities but there are plenty more overrated players anyway.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,550 Posts
Yes, have been saying this for years. Just look at how many people considered him an offensive baseliner with a Sock-type of FH and the answer is obvious.

Fortunately these dark times of ignorance are over now and we only have the most dim-witted tards still believing he has some potential left. Currently, I'd say De Minaur is the most overrated player though. Hilarious what people see in him.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,500 Posts
Not anymore.

There are still a few fools who actually think he can be a factor at Slams, but most people came to reason. Good to see.

Kyrgios will be forgotten soon.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,073 Posts
I still think he has big game, but something mentally isnt tuned in... one of the rare times I'll disagree with Dominator.

anyone who's seen his 2014 Wimbledon campaign or his matches against the Big 3 should be able to tell that when interested, he is capable of holding a rally and attacking.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
668 Posts
Anyone who thinks he is overrated is deluded. From 2014-17 when he was motivated he was the most dangerous player to the Big 3.

No other emerging player had such a good record against them as Nick did. The mental aspect was what separated him from other players, he didn't seem to fear the big 3 and was also one of the most clutch players in the world.

While the mental aspect is his strength it's also his major weakness. He has a terrible attitude, isn't committed enough and doesn't practice as much as he should.

Just because he sucks atm and isn't interested in playing doesn't detract from the overall qualities he has.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,169 Posts
No he is not. I mean anybody still rates him highly? Even the most hopeless of his supporters should know by now he's a clown who'll never win anything big.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
27,181 Posts
Hard to argue when you hear guys like John Mcenroe claim he has one of the best backhands on tour.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
27,181 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,069 Posts
Just curious, what's MTF consensus' on Johnny Mac as an analyst?
Mac is crazy at times, and often poorly informed--meaning he doesn't know certain facts about players.
But he's obviously not a total slouch.
I would rank Cahill way over Mac as an analyst of the game, for eg.
Basically, he's "streaky"
And sees it all through the lens of himself, his own game.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,069 Posts
Well, if you could read character back in 2014 (I could, sorry) he was even over-rated then, when he was shocking everyone by taking out top players on ocassion. Most thought he was headed for the top.

But he has a crappy attitude and no work ethic and this is where it has got him.

If you could see character back then, his current sinking ship is no surprise.

As for all the talent they thought he had, he does have great hands. That compensated for his feet which don't move enough.
Watch his feet then watch Thiem or AZ or Shap or Nadal or Fed etc. Fog has feet like that, and also great hands.

I find Nick's current status pleasing. But if he had changed his attitude and become a top player, I might have made peace with him. But I always found his ego off putting.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
600 Posts
Yes, have been saying this for years. Just look at how many people considered him an offensive baseliner with a Sock-type of FH and the answer is obvious.

Fortunately these dark times of ignorance are over now and we only have the most dim-witted tards still believing he has some potential left. Currently, I'd say De Minaur is the most overrated player though. Hilarious what people see in him.
I'd agree that De Minaur is definitely a contender for most overated at the moment. Runs well, good under pressure, smart shot selection (actually sounds exactly like hewitt) but he is small, build and height (I dont believe he is 6 foot) and under powered. He'll do well enough but he certainly has not done enough to warrant 'The Demon' tag the Aussie commentators are giving him.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,475 Posts
He's up there as the most overrated. Not near being a true contender anymore, and not even the most dangerous floater. IMO still rated based on the glory days which are in the past now. Could be that he rolled in from the junior circuit, with people possibly still getting through to him and him still fresh off at least some kind of training regimen (at the Australian Institute of Sport?). Then he got some taste of success, grew a bit older, but couldn't sustain the level due to not putting in enough work, and not taking in advice anymore (became his own man). He got struck down, and has yet to figure out that to sustain success at this level, you need to put in work; you can't just wing it. While he supposedly never was the hardest worker, now with no proper/strategic training regimens, he has regressed into a slouching servebot. The serve may at this point be a curse, since he's still able to somewhat hang in there with such a one sided game. Would need to get his physique/body sorted out and start building a more multifaceted/strategic game (again).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,475 Posts
Well, if you could read character back in 2014 (I could, sorry) he was even over-rated then, when he was shocking everyone by taking out top players on ocassion. Most thought he was headed for the top.

But he has a crappy attitude and no work ethic and this is where it has got him.

If you could see character back then, his current sinking ship is no surprise.

As for all the talent they thought he had, he does have great hands. That compensated for his feet which don't move enough.
Watch his feet then watch Thiem or AZ or Shap or Nadal or Fed etc.
Fog has feet like that, and also great hands.

I find Nick's current status pleasing. But if he had changed his attitude and become a top player, I might have made peace with him. But I always found his ego off putting.
The bolded bit. Spot on (although he used to be somewhat better at least). Now it's far far below the required level.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,522 Posts
Kyrgios is a waste of talent, waste of space, waste of time to watch. Better off retiring or devoting to become a doubles specialist or the NBA. he's just too cool for tennis and to work hard and to dedicate himself to hitting a yellow ball.

Kyrgios is a prisoner of his own poor judgement.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,285 Posts
He used to be dangerous against top players thanks to his massive serve, and he can actually rally (or may I say, junkball) with them, unlike other servebots like Karlovic or Isner. But nowadays, he has become more and more lazy, like if his opponents return his serves back into his court, he will not bother making that much effort into running and rallying anymore. He is purely a servebot who hit some random shots as hard as he can for them to become shots of the day etc. Hope he would be irrelevant soon. Tennis doesn't need and won't miss lazy players who have no work ethic like him.
 
1 - 20 of 39 Posts
Top