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Yes he has 27 and counting, but:

1- 19 of them on clay.
2- Previously finals were played on a BO5 not BO3. It made it very difficult. In fact, many players chose not to play all MS events.
 

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Everyone knows that his Masters count its inflated because of 3 clay Masters.

What a big news.
 

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Can someone remind me why clay is not a real surface?
 

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He clearly is. And what's up with 3 clay masters? It's only one third. While this may be a somewhat higher percentage than clay tournaments overall, you can also argue that clay in general is underrepresented (grass even more obviously, especially given that it is the original tennis surface). It's not like those best-of-5 finals cut people's count in half by the way. He'll win over 35 titles before he's done.
 

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Everyone knows that his Masters count its inflated because of 3 clay Masters.

What a big news.
What about 6 hardcourt ones :lol:

The hardcourt bias of the ATP is disgraceful, and Djokovic and Federer have such an edge because of it
 

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He clearly is. And what's up with 3 clay masters? It's only one third. While this may be a somewhat higher percentage than clay tournaments overall, you can also argue that clay in general is underrepresented (grass even more obviously, especially given that it is the original tennis surface). It's not like those best-of-5 finals cut people's count in half by the way. He'll win over 35 titles before he's done.
Well the fact that 70%+ of his masters come from a surface which is only played on 33% of the time just shows how inflated his stats are from clay. Djokovic and Federer are better than Nadal at masters because they a better distribution of masters wins.
 

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What about 6 hardcourt ones :lol:

The hardcourt bias of the ATP is disgraceful, and Djokovic and Federer have such an edge because of it

Hardcourt it's a universal surface.

Federer doesn't have 3 Masters on his best surface.
 

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No it's not.
Nadal have 3 Masters on clay, his best surface, where he can inflate his Masters count.
Federer have 0 Masters on grass, he can't inflate his Masters count.

Pretty much everyone can play good on hardcourt.
While most of the clay specialists, can't play good on grass and viceversa.

Hardcourt is not too slow like clay and not too fast like grass.
If you're a clay specialist, you can play on HC, same with a grass specialist.
That's why hardcourt is universal, while clay and grass are not.
 

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What about 6 hardcourt ones :lol:

The hardcourt bias of the ATP is disgraceful, and Djokovic and Federer have such an edge because of it
How is Federer benefiting from having 6 HC masters? :lol:

It's not his favourite surface. It's obviously grass, just like Nadal is clay.
 

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No it's not.
hard courts are the most relevant surface when it comes to considering whos the best, some undeniable facts:

- everyone plays well on hard courts
- competition is by far the strongest on hard courts
- no random shit patches on hard courts, its a test of true skill instead of luck

its no coincidence that the top 3 GS holders' most successful slam is a non-hard court surface, which they've used to inflate their GS count
 

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By the way, Nadal has won 8 masters on hardcourt, just 2 behind Sampras's count for hard and carpet combined. Sampras was hardly a journeyman on those surfaces. That's an impressive number as it is, he could easily reach 10.
 

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No it's not.
Of course it is, HC is the most neutral surface in tennis it allows you to play any style of tennis and be successful.
 

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What about 6 hardcourt ones :lol:

The hardcourt bias of the ATP is disgraceful, and Djokovic and Federer have such an edge because of it
at least Clay has 3 Masters

Murray would love even one grass masters series, let alone 3
 
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