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your a fool if you think Nadal is at Federer/Djokovic levels on HCs career wise
 

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Novak had much harder USO draws than Rafa from 07-11 when he always ended up in the same half as Fed. And he still made 3 more USO finals than Rafa and never had a cakewalk run like 2017. There's also the issue of AO where it's 8 to 1 advantage in wins for Novak.

Fed = Novak >>>> Nadal on hardcourts. Don't know how this is debatable either.
 

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How many HC rubbers in QF/SF are there between Nadal & peaking Federer or Nadal & Djokovic or Nadal & Stanimal ?

Zero ?

Between Djokovic and peaking Federer before 2012 and Djokovic & Stan after 2012 there are ten rubbers or more, including epic Roger-Novak USO'10 & '11 SF 5-setters and Novak-Stan AO'13 & '14 4R/QF 6-setters.

That is what will true tennis fans remember forever.

That is also the reason why Nadal has got his four USO titles, by always being in the other half from two best HC players at the moment, ever since 2008, consequentiallly playing tired opponents in the finals and the likes of tired Youzhny, Gasquet, Berrettini & co. in USO SF including tired Medvedev in 2019 F who as Berrettini made his first QF stage at slam, or seeds no. 28 and 24 as the highest ranked players as in USO'17.

With Nadal's HC draws both Federer or Djokovic would've won two-three HC slams more and Nadal one or two USO titles only.
 

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Dull isn’t near the level of Djokovic and Federer in hardcourts. Federer has more AO and USO and Djokovic has more AO by a landslide and Dull’s USO draws are 500 level tops. Anderson in final ?
 

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Dull isn’t near the level of Djokovic and Federer in hardcourts. Federer has more AO and USO and Djokovic has more AO by a landslide and Dull’s USO draws are 500 level tops. Anderson in final ?
Exactly. I’ve heard they renamed 2017 edition to Anderson Open.
 

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Nadal is still much better (outdoors) hardcourter than Frodo as their outdoors HC records suggests. It's a shame Nadal didn't manage to vulture as many HC slams. He is a better player at AO and it is really a shame he still has only one.
 

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Dull isn’t near the level of Djokovic and Federer in hardcourts. Federer has more AO and USO and Djokovic has more AO by a landslide and Dull’s USO draws are 500 level tops. Anderson in final ?
Fedtards laughing about Anderson as an opponent became hilarious since Wimbledon 2018 at the very latest.
 

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your a fool if you think Nadal is at Federer/Djokovic levels on HCs career wise
When did I say that?
The point you missed, is that hardcourt is nowhere near Rafa's favorite surface, and he's still got more US Opens than the best hardcourter ever(?)....
It doesn't seem to add up.
 

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Nadal winning 4 US Opens is the biggest joke in tennis history.
Rafa has beaten US Open champions in all FOUR of his US Open title runs....
2010 = Rafa beat Djokovic (Djokovic became a champ in 2011)
2013 = Rafa beat Djokovic
2017 = Rafa beat Del Potro
2019 = Rafa beat Cilic
 

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When did I say that?
The point you missed, is that hardcourt is nowhere near Rafa's favorite surface, and he's still got more US Opens than the best hardcourter ever(?)....
It doesn't seem to add up.
Probably because you forgot to add the Australian Open as a hard court.
 

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Probably because you forgot to add the Australian Open as a hard court.
Yeah I forgot the Australian Open was played on a hardcourt, yeah great point....
Shouldn't the best hardcourter ever have as many US Open titles as a player who doesn't even call hardcourt his favorite surface?
 

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Djokovic and Federer are more consistent than Rafa on HC
But lets talk about peak version on HC
USO - no one can touch USO 10 Rafa, the high bounce and the slow conditions makes his game just pefect
AO - Peak Djokovic is better than peak Rafa there, but peak Rafa is better than peak Roger.
 
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