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back in the day before everyone went completely psycho "WORK OUT ALL TIHE TIME MODE!*%@" top athletes could last 20+ years.

Nowadays guys are tearing ACLs just walking around their kitchen.

We've hit the point where people are pushing their bodies beyond human limit. It's stupid.
 

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Well rafa is still around and still playing almost full time :giggle:
Not true. He quit the last part of the season at least 3 times in last 7-8 years, also withdrew from several hardcourt Masters and non-clay slams.
If you know all this, why are you trying to insinuate it's the other way?
 

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Not true. He quit the last part of the season at least 3 times in last 7-8 years, also withdrew from several hardcourt Masters and non-clay slams.
If you know all this, why are you trying to insinuate it's the other way?
I consider rafa missing a month or two as still playing almost full time
 

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He's emulating Rafa now. Next you'll be seeing and reading that Alcaraz has a permanent condition, and is on constant pain killers, etc. Alcaraz was supposed to retire at 25, but in the end he ends up playing till his late 30s, winning a dozen French Opens etc. I can see the resemblance to Nadal.
 

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and it proved accurate. look at his withdrawal/retirement rate. It's off the charts. He plays like 6 times a year. 🤷‍♂️
he won 6 slams after age 30, that alone is enough to debunk that the “done at 25” remarks proved accurate. He was nowhere near done.
Regardless of withdrawals and selective scheduling

edit: just realized original wording was retired, not done, so it’s even less accurate
 

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He'll be retired by 25.

That's how it works now, same deal in baseball. People pushing themselves to such an extreme limit at such a young age.

It isn't sustainable.
People said the same thing about Nadal. He will be fine.
 
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He'll be retired by 25.

That's how it works now, same deal in baseball. People pushing themselves to such an extreme limit at such a young age.

It isn't sustainable.
This. As much as i Love him - to have a body like this at 18 is not healthy.
 

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This. As much as i Love him - to have a body like this at 18 is not healthy.
While he's more mature/developed for 18 relative to a lot of other tennis players(who tend to be on the leaner side), he's not really out of the norm for other athletes generally.
 
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Also: he is so developed... more than most other players at that age - reminds me of Rafa, yes...but also leads me to believe, that he will last shorter than others. While I do agree with it being due to pushing too much past physical boundaries I als believe it to be a genetic factor in this case.
 

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Thats what they said about rafa
Different.

They said Rafa would run ragged and tired — in other words his condition would deteriorate as time goes by and become worn out (= wear and tear).

But this Alcaraz seems like he's simply gonna hit himself out of a match — flameout. Hit so hard and so relentlessly and put himself under enormous physical stress that it (= his body) simply cannot handle the situation any more and "explode". Not later on like Rafa but immediately, right there on the spot, in real time (= overexertion).
 

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This. As much as i Love him - to have a body like this at 18 is not healthy.
You think you know better than a whole team of specialists. Jesus Christ, shut up. He pushed himself over the limits at the US Open, it was his first run in a Grand Slam. It would've been a miracle if he hadn't sustained any injury after his heroics.
 
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