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where you fail is, you don't realize that nadal already has a hardcourt slam and that came at the expense of fed.......
HALT!

But I thought the argument was that he had to beat NADAL for his career grand-slam on clay.

But of course, the same doesn't apply to Nadal that he doesn't even have to play the 6 times finalist, 5 time winner USO Roger Federer? Right?

Oh nooooo...
 

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You play the opponent on the other side of the net. Doesn't matter if the draw is "cakewalk", because guess what? No-one rigged the draw in anyone's favor. That's just the way things work.

All of you haters on both sides are immature brats who really need to grow the fuck up. Roger won the French, Rafa is likely to win the US Open. It is what it is, they are two of the best in history, celebrate their greatness instead of always looking for ways to tear them down.
 

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You play the opponent on the other side of the net. Doesn't matter if the draw is "cakewalk", because guess what? No-one rigged the draw in anyone's favor. That's just the way things work.

All of you haters on both sides are immature brats who really need to grow the fuck up. Roger won the French, Rafa is likely to win the US Open. It is what it is, they are two of the best in history, celebrate their greatness instead of always looking for ways to tear them down.
I agree with you, my point is the case of double-standards, Nadal will totally deserve his title if he wins, equally Federer in FO09.
 

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All of you haters on both sides are immature brats who really need to grow the fuck up. Roger won the French, Rafa is likely to win the US Open. It is what it is, they are two of the best in history, celebrate their greatness instead of always looking for ways to tear them down.
 

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HALT!

But I thought the argument was that he had to beat NADAL for his career grand-slam on clay.

But of course, the same doesn't apply to Nadal that he doesn't even have to play the 6 times finalist, 5 time winner USO Roger Federer? Right?

Oh nooooo...
he doesn't need to beat fed here as he already proved that he can beat him on any surface as reflected by his multiple french victories, wimbledon victory and australian open victories over the swiss.......
 

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he doesn't need to beat fed here as he already proved that he can beat him on any surface as reflected by his multiple french victories, wimbledon victory and australian open victories over the swiss.......
Well the US Open surface is actually composed of a different hard-court material.

The AO used to use pexicushion, the US uses decoturf. Pre-08 AO had a different surface too. All three react differently, and AO is slightly slower (or atleast used to be).
 

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Well the US Open surface is actually composed of a different hard-court material.

The AO used to use pexicushion, the US uses decoturf. Pre-08 AO had a different surface too. All three react differently, and AO is slightly slower (or atleast used to be).
AO used to have rebound ace which used to play somewhat slow with higher bounce than plexicushion which was imported from u.s. and it plays faster with lesser bounce compared to rebound ace.......

in any case, fed was never going to stand much chance against nadal, as you might have read here even his fans did not believe that he was going to beat rafa.......

overall, the truth remains that nadal beat fed on all the 3 major surfaces in slam finals.......
 

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There should never be asterisks to begin with.

You beat who you draw. If you win 7 in a row, you deserve the title.
Correct.

You beat 7 players on the other side of the net. If a player who matches up badly against you loses early that is part of the game.

RF at FO 2009 and FN at USO 2010 are both totally valid.

Expect RN to join RF and AA as winners of the 4 GS on different surfaces.
 

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Now that Rafa has reached the final and has a chance to win the USO tomorrow, will Nadaltards and Fedhaters finally stop putting an asterisk on Fed winning RG, similarity will the Fedtards and Nadalhaters stop trying to devalue Rafa's win?

If Rafa doesn't have to go through the 5-time champion/6-time finalist to win his first US Open, then tards should stop trying to use the "Roger didn't have to beat Rafa to win his first French Open!!!"> argument.

So basically, can the fans both sides just agree that you play whoever is on the other side of the net and it doesn't matter if you don't beat the multiple time champion as long as you win?
:zzz: Trolls, haters, etc., etc. They feed offthreads like these. Rogr won 7 matches in RG 2009. He was the champion. Period.
 

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Whatever this stupid asterisk may mean , if I remember correctly, Federer has never beaten Nadal in Grand Slams on surfaces other than grass. So, if you really want that asterisk somewhere other than in your ass, really, put it next to every Federer's non-grass Grand Slams, and that is like 10 of them.. :lol: Those are he probably would not be winning if had had to play Nadal..

Anyway, this discussion is as silly as it gets, but we are allowed to behave silly, aren't we? :lol:
 
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