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Sampras would probably feel himself lucky if he were to win a few games against Nadal in Roland Garros... but could he beat the Spaniard on the Wimbledon grass?

Backed by a terrific serve and forehand and a champion's mentality, many still think that Pete Sampras is the best grass court player ever... but his weaknesses could be even more exposed by today's opponents... for starters, Pete's backhand is considerably weaker than Roger's, and we all know how Nadal can pummel that side relentlessly... also, Wimbledon court speed has slowed considerably since Pete's heyday, probably making his serve less effective... and there is no guarantee that Nadal would have trouble dealing with Pete's serve either, as he is a very good returner anyway... but Sampras always felt that Centre Court is his home, and he would play with extreme confidence against anyone on the court...

So, if the grass courts were as quick as before, how do you think a rivalry between Rafael Nadal and a peak Pete Sampras would play out in Wimbledon?
 

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Oh come on, Sampras would destroy Nadal on grass.
 

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If Lukas Rosol and Steve Darcis can beat Nadal at Wimbledon, I suspect that (arguably) the greatest grass courter of all time might be able to do it as well.
 

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Sampras would win.

Sampras has one of the best serves of all time. Rafa is not exactly a great returner, he'd just leave the ball on a plate for Sampras to bury with his volleys. Sampras was also a mental giant, so wouldn't exactly fold under any pressure Nadal puts on him.
 

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90s grass yes but in an era where Nadal can grind out grass court wins over Federer it's not so clear cut. Nadal vs Sampras on second week incredibly slowed down grass is a different matter.
Sampras' serve much better than Roger. Also he won once against Roger, so there were no "wins." Just one win and it was a 5 setter.
 

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:lol: at the Fraudturds who think Pete will destroy Rafa on grass. Nadal will attack that weak backhand like there is no tomorrow. Pete never had to deal with anything remotely close to Rafa's ferocious topspin forehand. Also, Rafa's passing shots are top notch.

And about the Champion's Mentality - it does not give you any advantage against a mental giant like Rafa.
 

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Sampras would win.

Sampras has one of the best serves of all time. Rafa is not exactly a great returner, he'd just leave the ball on a plate for Sampras to bury with his volleys. Sampras was also a mental giant, so wouldn't exactly fold under any pressure Nadal puts on him.
I think you meant Sampras was NOT a mental midget. Yes. He would own Rafa's ass like there was no tomorrow. On this surface though. On clay, Rafa would beat him silly. Sampras was a grass court specialist of the highest order. But the cultists won't give him credit either. And if you don't worship Rafa, you must be a Fedtard :D Mindless drones ...
 

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Is this a joke? If injured Darcis can routine Nadal at Wimbledon what do you think the grass GOAT would do?
 

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This is like when people say that 34 year-old Agassi wouldn't have done well against current Djokovic or Murray. I say to that, if Haas and Nishikori and Dimitrov and Young and Garcia-Lopez could get wins over those two on hard, Agassi sure as hell could too. Same thing here. Pete would undoubtedly be able to beat Nadal on grass and probably even hard. Pete was as aggressive as it came and on grass Rafa would actually have to focus on placing his returns well or wlse Pete would slam away volleys time and time again. And his baseline game is severely underrated. He routinely competed and even beat Agassi in the 90s from the baseline (you know, Agassi, probably the 4th best baseliner ever).
 

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Is this a joke? If injured Darcis can routine Nadal at Wimbledon what do you think the grass GOAT would do?
But didn't you hear? Nadal's knees were not good the last couple of years every time he lost. But when he won, they were great. Like the back that goes bad in the middle of 4th set but heals itself just in time when Nole serving to stay in the match. lol
 

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This is like when people say that 34 year-old Agassi wouldn't have done well against current Djokovic or Murray. I say to that, if Haas and Nishikori and Dimitrov and Young and Garcia-Lopez could get wins over those two on hard, Agassi sure as hell could too. Same thing here. Pete would undoubtedly be able to beat Nadal on grass and probably even hard. Pete was as aggressive as it came and on grass Rafa would actually have to focus on placing his returns well or wlse Pete would slam away volleys time and time again. And his baseline game is severely underrated. He routinely competed and even beat Agassi in the 90s from the baseline (you know, Agassi, probably the 4th best baseliner ever).
Exactly. Lots of people think that Sampras was pure S&V, but that is not the case. He could hang with Agassi from the baseline and his forehand wad deadly. I don't recall him shanking his BH as much as Fed either. And look, prime Agassi would roll through today's youngsters like a hot knife through butter and would also beat non-2011 Djokovic and Murray no problem.
 

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But didn't you hear? Nadal's knees were not good the last couple of years every time he lost. But when he won, they were great. Like the back that goes bad in the middle of 4th set but heals itself just in time when Nole serving to stay in the match. lol
Dang you're right. If Sampras did play Nadal and Nadal lost, it would just mean that Rafito wasn't fully healthy for the match. On a level playing field with a healthy Rafito he would never lose :D

Although, his back flared up yesterday vs Djokovic when things started going badly, but luckily it healed a few games later for him to win the match.
 

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Are we seriously debating whether Nadal would win against Sampras on 90s grass, equipped with tennis raquets from the 80s,90s?
 

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Dang you're right. If Sampras did play Nadal and Nadal lost, it would just mean that Rafito wasn't fully healthy for the match. On a level playing field with a healthy Rafito he would never lose :D

Although, his back flared up yesterday vs Djokovic when things started going badly, but luckily it healed a few games later for him to win the match.
It infuriates me that no one calls this guy on his bulls***... ATP is run like a mafia. All these paid shills in the media ... talking about how his back is gone and then he runs around like a rabbit hitting passing shots. Maybe a child can believe that's possible. Anyone who has had back pain, whether it's muscle or other issues, knows that just does not happen. We are supposed to suspend any sense of reality to believe this "rocky" like story. A man with a broken back and shot legs wins another grand slam in a routine fashion. lol :)
 
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