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Ok, if you were to find a style that would trouble Djokovic the most and therefore beat him, which players currently have this potential?

Of course, this assumes they have the mental strength to execute but let's leave that aside.

I suggest Federer and Wawrinka as two prototypes due to obvious historical success.

Their styles could be described as variety at speed and consistent all round power respectively?

Who out there plays anything like them?
Which youngsters?
or is there another style?
It's obvious which styles do not work!
 

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A good counter puncher that doesn't give you much rhythm or pace. Murray and Simon did it better than most (although Murray's shots penetrated the court a lot more).

Outside of Federer and Nadal of course (whose styles can't exactly be replicated by most players)
 

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A good counter puncher that doesn't give you much rhythm or pace. Murray and Simon did it better than most (although Murray's shots penetrated the court a lot more).

Outside of Federer and Nadal of course (whose styles can't exactly be replicated by most players)
So out of the new kids...

De Minaur? Medvedev? Coric? Chung?
 

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Be lucky to play him on a day when he's not in peace with himself. Your chances are higher when he's helping you beat him. When his mind + body is not in balance, he's vulnerable.

It's not only about making shots and movement with Novak.
 

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Khachanov is already better
 

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Djokovic seems to struggle the most against big servers like Karlovic, Kyrgios, Roddick..
Because they neutralize his amazing return.

So having a big serve is the 1st requirement I would say.

He loves pace and hit the ball on the rise and redirect pace from baseline but tends to have much less effective baseline prowess against a very good slice, like Federer slice with the old racquet, but even the new racquet slice which is not as good still tends to be better against Djokovic than topspin.

So having a very good slice is the 2nd requirement.
 

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Hope for a typhoon so you can slice him to death.
 

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Better at what exactly?
Baseline and serve similar in strenth, not in style. Both can be better.

More tireless, relentless aggression... 24/7 offense.

And he might be the best moving big man ever. Djokovic had trouble getting through him in Paris, and will continue to have such troubles.
 

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Baseline and serve similar in strenth, not in style. Both can be better.

More tireless, relentless aggression... 24/7 offense.

And he might be the best moving big man ever. Djokovic had trouble getting through him in Paris, and will continue to have such troubles.
He’s better or has the potential to be better? Here is a hint the latter is not the same as the former.
 

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He’s better or has the potential to be better? Here is a hint the latter is not the same as the former.
Here is a hint there is no mention of potential.

Can refers to a state of now in this case. It was the case in Paris.
 

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Ouch.

On topic: first and foremost, be fearless, and I mean fearless. If the guy just kinda believes he's got a shot, his confidence will shatter at the first sign of adversity, which will come sooner rather than later. This is why none of the old guys can even come close to beating him nowadays - they've experienced the fury of peak Djokovic first hand. The young guys, on the other hand, have no such scars and, on a moderately good day, will make it a contest or even win. Of course, this is an oversimplification, but the question itself isn't easily answerable.

TL;DR

Be better and don't choke. :laugh2:
 

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Apparently you can’t grasp what it means to be better. One head to head win does not equal better.
That's why I told you what makes him better, lol. Grasp on dat, bud.
 
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