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How many players do you think will make their debut in the WTF this year.

The candidates are obvious:
Dimitrov
Raonic
Gulbis
Nishikori

Plus a few outside chances.
 

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Dimitrov and Raonic are looking like the most consistent, so they will probably make it. Gulbis and Nishikori have chances as well though.
 

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Milos should take advantage of his #6 seed to get many QF's now, and that will give him the edge over the others (even if he is slightly below them in the Race). As Delpo's still out, Dimitrov has a good spot... so those two will make it.
 

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Milos should take advantage of his #6 seed to get many QF's now, and that will give him the edge over the others (even if he is slightly below them in the Race). As Delpo's still out, Dimitrov has a good spot... so those two will make it.
Dimitrov with his currently #8 seed will be in the same draw situation, at least in the first 2 masters. :shrug:

So as Ferrer.
 

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Dimitrov with his currently #8 seed will be in the same draw situation, at least in the first 2 masters. :shrug:

So as Ferrer.
Raonic already has a few QF results in the bank. When you break it down by tournament levels Raonic is behind in 500 and 250s, because he's played in fewer.

In GSs this year Raonic has 1170 point, Dimitrov 1090 and Ferrer 765. In Masters (not counting Monte Carlo) Raonic has 810, Dimitrov has 540 and Ferrer has 630. In the 6 'others' Raonic has only 225, Dimitrov has 1155 and Ferrer has 1015. Both Dimitrov and Ferrer have all 6 slots taken, so the will have to do better than their worst result and then not get the full points. Raonic only has 2 tournaments counted towards the 'other 6', and we're entering the NA hardcourt season which is typically his best surface.

If Raonic conitnues his form he should be ahead of both.
 

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It's between 3-4 for me. Stan, Fed, Rafa, Nole, are shoe-ins, then it's up in the air between Ferrer, Grigor, Raonic, Nishikori, and Berdych. Gulbis has a chance, but not as much as the rest IMO.

Well having said that, fast hard is coming up, could suit him.
 

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Raonic already has a few QF results in the bank. When you break it down by tournament levels Raonic is behind in 500 and 250s, because he's played in fewer.

In GSs this year Raonic has 1170 point, Dimitrov 1090 and Ferrer 765. In Masters (not counting Monte Carlo) Raonic has 810, Dimitrov has 540 and Ferrer has 630. In the 6 'others' Raonic has only 225, Dimitrov has 1155 and Ferrer has 1015. Both Dimitrov and Ferrer have all 6 slots taken, so the will have to do better than their worst result and then not get the full points. Raonic only has 2 tournaments counted towards the 'other 6', and we're entering the NA hardcourt season which is typically his best surface.

If Raonic conitnues his form he should be ahead of both.
Raonic hasn't played much less small tournaments in the recent months, he just lost early in the latest ones (Estoril, Halle).

Surely he has more chances to add points, but I'm betting he'll play exactly the same ammount of 250/500 of Dimitrov/Ferrer until the end of the year, so he'll have to win basically everything he plays to be ahead of both.

Dimitrov, for example, has 1155 points in the 6 "others" like you said, but 1000 of them come from 3 tournaments, so he has 3 open spots. Let's say he reaches Washington final, wins Stockholm and reaches Basel semifinals. Pretty plausible results. Then he'll be with 1730 points in the 6 others. For Raonic to match that, he'll need to do very well in at least 4 or 5 smaller tournaments (including at least 2 500's).

Same can be said about Ferrer, he has some open spots too.
 

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Raonic hasn't played much less small tournaments in the recent months, he just lost early in the latest ones (Estoril, Halle).

Surely he has more chances to add points, but I'm betting he'll play exactly the same ammount of 250/500 of Dimitrov/Ferrer until the end of the year, so he'll have to win basically everything he plays to be ahead of both.

Dimitrov, for example, has 1155 points in the 6 "others" like you said, but 1000 of them come from 3 tournaments, so he has 3 open spots. Let's say he reaches Washington final, wins Stockholm and reaches Basel semifinals. Pretty plausible results. Then he'll be with 1730 points in the 6 others. For Raonic to match that, he'll need to do very well in at least 4 or 5 smaller tournaments (including at least 2 500's).

Same can be said about Ferrer, he has some open spots too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_ATP_World_Tour_Finals

They don't have open spots, they have to drop points to add to 'other 6'

Raonic has played in 3. Monte Carlo where he picked up 180 points, Oeiras where he picked up 45 and Halle were he got o, so he has 4 open spots

Dimitrov has all 6 filled 3 wins, a 500 (Acapulco) and 2 250s (Queen's and Bucharest) along with Monte Carlo (90), Rotterdam (45) and Brisbane (20), so his next tournament he'll get whatever points - 20 towards the race, then after that he'll have to get more than 45 points in order for it count.30

Ferrer also has all 6 filled, and didn't get the full 45 points from Bastad, he had to drop the 20 points from Doha.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_ATP_World_Tour_Finals

They don't have open spots, they have to drop points to add to 'other 6'

Raonic has played in 3. Monte Carlo where he picked up 180 points, Oeiras where he picked up 45 and Halle were he got o, so he has 4 open spots

Dimitrov has all 6 filled 3 wins, a 500 (Acapulco) and 2 250s (Queen's and Bucharest) along with Monte Carlo (90), Rotterdam (45) and Brisbane (20), so his next tournament he'll get whatever points - 20 towards the race, then after that he'll have to get more than 45 points in order for it count.30

Ferrer also has all 6 filled, and didn't get the full 45 points from Bastad, he had to drop the 20 points from Doha.
Exactly what Doktor Carpet said :wavey:

1000 points from Acapulco, Queen´s and Bucharest + 3 "open points" (for example: Washington (300), Stockholm (250) and Basel (180))
 

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I think Ferrer (and Murray, although I think he barely gets there or really picks it up to at least be around #5-#6 IMO) in dubious forms I agree we would probably see 2 new faces and maybe even 3.
 

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i think a couple of them would be already huge.

Couldn't say which 2, coz a lot of tennis to be played ahead, but the two with best ranking so far with best chances even statistically, draws wise, etc.
 
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