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Taking advantage of the discussion initiated by the cat's thread :) , how would you assess the following players chances and merits to get into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport?

Should be? Will be?
1. Sergi Bruguera
2. Thomas Muster
3. Michael Chang
4. Marcelo Rios
5. Petr Korda
6. Carlos Moya
7. Thomas Johansson
8. Andres Gomes
9. Richard Krajicek
10. Goran Ivanisevic

they are all Slam titleists, with the exception of Rios, and arguments can be made both for their inclusion or ineligibility, and while Moya and Johansson are still active players, they are certainly approaching the twilight of their careers...
 

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Who really cares about the Hall of Fame? Chang and Goran are the best chances from that group.

Bruguera and Muster don't have a hope, they should, but they won't get in.
Rios won't.

Gomez is actually how it's spelt by the way.
 

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muster will get in, number 1 + slam champion
 

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TennisLurker said:
muster will get in, number 1 + slam champion
They'll find a way not to let him in.
 

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None of them are hall of famers. Being famous does not make you a hall of famer.
 

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tennis elbow said:
Taking advantage of the discussion initiated by the cat's thread :) , how would you assess the following players chances and merits to get into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport?

Should be? Will be?
1. Sergi Bruguera
2. Thomas Muster
3. Michael Chang
4. Marcelo Rios
5. Petr Korda
6. Carlos Moya
7. Thomas Johansson
8. Andres Gomes
9. Richard Krajicek
10. Goran Ivanisevic

they are all Slam titleists, with the exception of Rios, and arguments can be made both for their inclusion or ineligibility, and while Moya and Johansson are still active players, they are certainly approaching the twilight of their careers...
None of them.
 

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uNIVERSE mAN said:
None of them are hall of famers. Being famous does not make you a hall of famer.
Pat won 2 US Opens, was runner up at Wimbledon twice and was a world number 1 so he's more than just 'famous'. There's only 5 active players on the tour now out of the hundreds who play that can at least match that record.
 

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Raquel said:
Pat won 2 US Opens, was runner up at Wimbledon twice and was a world number 1 so he's more than just 'famous'. There's only 5 active players on the tour now out of the hundreds who play that can at least match that record.
:banana: Pat :inlove: Raquel :yeah:
 

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Raquel said:
Pat won 2 US Opens, was runner up at Wimbledon twice and was a world number 1 so he's more than just 'famous'. There's only 5 active players on the tour now out of the hundreds who play that can at least match that record.
Rafter only won 11 titles in his entire life. There are hall of famers and even current players who won that many in a year. He had a so-so career match record of 358-191 which is not hall of fame numbers, and he barely spent two years in the top 10, if you remember the majority of his tennis career he was a journeyman. He was in his mid-20's when he started to do anything. I consider him a journeyman player who had some great moments and a brilliant two yr run at the US Open with a bit of luck (Sampras' injury).
 

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being inducted into HoF these days is a bit of a joke

there's so many included in last few yrs who's not even fit to lace the boots of many previous inductees.
 

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being inducted into HoF these days is a bit of a joke

there's so many included in last few yrs who's not even fit to lace the boots of many previous inductees.
Like whom?

BTW: I think Gomez is already in :confused:

Sure to be included: Rios and Chang. Probably Muster.
 

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uNIVERSE mAN said:
Rafter only won 11 titles in his entire life. There are hall of famers and even current players who won that many in a year. He had a so-so career match record of 358-191 which is not hall of fame numbers, and he barely spent two years in the top 10, if you remember the majority of his tennis career he was a journeyman. He was in his mid-20's when he started to do anything. I consider him a journeyman player who had some great moments and a brilliant two yr run at the US Open with a bit of luck (Sampras' injury).
I know what you mean when you say 'journeyman' considering Pat's years in the 20-50 sort of rankings but to win 2 Slams and make 2 finals takes you out of the journeyman category for me. A real journeyman is someone who spends a career at the same consistent level of being good but not great.Better to shine bright for a short time than not at all though and Pat had his moments of glory.

Eggy is right though, the standard for entry has dropped. Noah won RG but only reached one other Slam semi final in his whole career so you could argue that if that's good enough, Pat's definitely good enough. With Noah's stats as a yardstick, a lot of people now have a shout at claiming they're worthy enough too.
 
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