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Quite recently we had a poll where lots of haters voted against Djokovic, claiming extra finals and a Queens title gave advantage to Nadal.

So it that still the case now?

Djokovic - 3 Wimbledon titles, 4 Wimbledon finals (3-1 score).
Nadal - 2 Wimbledon titles, 5 Wimbledon finals (2-3 score), 1 Queens title, 1 Stuttgart title.

Also their H2H is 2-1 in Nadals favor (Djokovic injured in W SF 2007 though, and Djokovic won the most important match - Final 2011).

Djokovic beat Federer twice, while Nadal did it only once.

Also Nadal's lows are much worse - 4 100+ loses last 4 years, while Djokovic most embarrassing loses were to Safin in 2nd round 2008 and Haas in QF 2009.
 

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Djokovic, although 07 Nadal would have beaten 14-15 Federer. It's all about timing.
 

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there was nothing embarrassing in loss to Safin and Haas. they are both great players who outplayed him at that day...

Novak is better then Rafa on grass. far more comfortable in first week of tournament, and now he has more titles to back it up
 

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Djokovic obviously, even though he moves worse on the surface. Nadal's performances on grass in the last 4 years have just been embarrassing. All of Djokovic's losses have been to very good players - he's hardly had any bad defeats on the surface.
 

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None of them are grass-courters, but Djokovic is clearly better on grass. Djokovic has a game that works on grass as well, while Nadal slightly adjusted his claycourter game to make it work on grass. So while the question should be who is better on grass, but for both Djokovic is the answer.
 

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Ok I should have probably said "worst" loses instead "most embarrassing", but still they were matches he should have won.
 

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Chico is showing up his true colors...a federer fan....like other fed fans...want forget the lose and highlight this as Djokovic vs Nadal......LOLLLL I pity on Fed fans.....who lost in the final Federer or Nadal......ha ha ha....

Chico, there is not even one thread from you to appreciate Djokovic win....but you are butt hurt...that your real idol lost today...

World knows how fed fans act as other player fans...just to target Nadal.

Listen...nobody can change this Nadal and Djokovic are true legends of tennis after Pete and Agassi.

By the way...Nadal and Djokovic are equal grass court players...Nadal has beaten federer in his prime...2008 best tennis match in the history of tennis.
 

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Nadal before this years W, Djokovic now.
Not really, Nadal 2007-08 and 2010, Djokovic 2011-15.
(In 2009 Nadal did not compete on grass, Novak was really worse than in later years. I better would not rate their 2005-06 years, for obvious reasons.)

THAT is the correct answer, in a really unbiased way.
 

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Not really, Nadal 2007-08 and 2010, Djokovic 2011-15.
(In 2009 Nadal did not compete on grass, Novak was really worse than in later years. I better would not rate their 2005-06 years, for obvious reasons.)

THAT is the correct answer, in a really unbiased way.
I was comparing achievements, not level of play. Obviousely Djokovic has been better on grass since 2011 but he had quite a bit of catching up to do so it is only now his total grass merits are greater.
 

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Djoko. Murray >>> Nabull
 

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Novak is great grass player but he is more "natural" at "artificial" courts.

Nadal on the other hand was a natural natural court player.
 

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Chico is showing up his true colors...a federer fan....like other fed fans...want forget the lose and highlight this as Djokovic vs Nadal......LOLLLL I pity on Fed fans.....who lost in the final Federer or Nadal......ha ha ha....

Chico, there is not even one thread from you to appreciate Djokovic win....but you are butt hurt...that your real idol lost today...

World knows how fed fans act as other player fans...just to target Nadal.

Listen...nobody can change this Nadal and Djokovic are true legends of tennis after Pete and Agassi.

By the way...Nadal and Djokovic are equal grass court players...Nadal has beaten federer in his prime...2008 best tennis match in the history of tennis.
:shrug: WTF is this about? Having some problems? :confused:
 

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Djoker King is a way better grasscourter, but it feels like stating the obvious now.
 

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Djokovic, although 07 Nadal would have beaten 14-15 Federer. It's all about timing.
+1 to this statement.

2014/2015 Djoko would not beat 07 Roger.



Timing is key for many things in life. Djokovic is peaking at the right time! He was so close to winning the French too. 2015 Djoko would never beat 2008 Nadal. Hell he couldn't beat any Nadal apart from 2015 Nadal.
 
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