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Aces
2006: 13
2015: 14

Winners
2006: 43
2015: 58

Unforced Errors
2006: 32
2015: 35

Winner/UE ratio
2006: 1.34
2015: 1.66

:shrug:

(Sources: 2006 Wimbledon final stats & 2015 Wimbledon final stats)

EDIT: These stats are meant to demonstrate that Federer is actually playing well. I have expressed no opinion as to whether or not Federer is playing better or worse than 2006.
 

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Dog with a bone syndrome.
 

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:umbrella: Fedtards don't want this to be brought to light. They want to keep living in "Delusion Land" where Federer supposedly played 10 times better then than he does today. Like the level of tennis hasn't been increased about 3 levels because of the Titans Nadal and Djokovic. He had much better stats in 2015 than 2006 and still lost in 4 sets. What does that tell you?
 

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When will people actually watch tennis matches instead of using W/UE ratios to determine quality?

And on any note: Wimbledon has become incredibly generous with error count in the past few years.
 

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I found some other stats:


Wimbledon 2004 final:

Aces: 12

Winners: 55

Unforced Errors: 28

Winner/UE ratio: 1.96


Wimbledon 2005 final:

Aces: 11

Winners: 49

Unforced Errors: 12

Winner/UE Ratio: 4.08


Wimbledon 2007 final:

Aces: 24

Winners: 54

Unforced Errors: 34

Wiinner/UE Ratio: 1.59
 

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Aces
2006: 13
2015: 14

Winners
2006: 43
2015: 58

Unforced Errors
2006: 32
2015: 35

Winner/UE ratio
2006: 1.34
2015: 1.66

:shrug:

(Sources: 2006 Wimbledon final stats & 2015 Wimbledon final stats)
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Dude you just won the internet.. i was thinking of doing something similar..

Because Fedtards have inbeded in our brains that Fed 06 was a different person, if a person reaches a GS final he is playing
his 10/10 game, he might not produce the PEAKEST PEAK?! but he won 10/17 GS playing like he did vs Novak..

So Fedtards, you have no more arguments.. take a loss graciously next time.
 

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Djokovic in the 2011 USO final vs Nadal vs 2014 USO SF vs Nishikori

Aces:

2011 F: 7
2014 SF: 13

Winners:

2011 F: 55
2014 SF: 38

Unforced errors:

2011 F: 51
2014 SF: 35

Winner/UE ratio:

2011 F: 1.078
2014 SF: 1.086


Better serving and slightly better W/UE ratio in the 2014 SFs; he was playing better than 2011 when he won the tournament and still got beaten in 4 by a player who'd go on to be routined in the finals.
 

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Djokovic in the 2011 USO final vs Nadal vs 2014 USO SF vs Nishikori

Aces:

2011 F: 7
2014 SF: 13

Winners:

2011 F: 55
2014 SF: 38

Unforced errors:

2011 F: 51
2014 SF: 35

Winner/UE ratio:

2011 F: 1.078
2014 SF: 1.086


Better serving and slightly better W/UE ratio in the 2014 SFs; he was playing better than 2011 when he won the tournament and still got beaten in 4 by a player who'd go on to be routined in the finals.
:eek:

This conclusively proves that Novak wins based on a very high base game but is easily surpassed by the peaks of his contemporaries.
 

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Djokovic in the 2011 USO final vs Nadal vs 2014 USO SF vs Nishikori

Aces:

2011 F: 7
2014 SF: 13

Winners:

2011 F: 55
2014 SF: 38

Unforced errors:

2011 F: 51
2014 SF: 35

Winner/UE ratio:

2011 F: 1.078
2014 SF: 1.086


Better serving and slightly better W/UE ratio in the 2014 SFs; he was playing better than 2011 when he won the tournament and still got beaten in 4 by a player who'd go on to be routined in the finals.
Further proof that we live in the strongest era of all time :worship:
 

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In a normal sane world Federer fans would go
"Wow thats a great indication that our guy! can still produce his highest levels in tennis, and even out performan his younger days in Wimbledon finals"

But no.. its just like that artictle says "Many insecure people, who have lost their jobs, money, relationships" they fetched on to Federer 2004-2008?!
And his brutal dominance just made them feel dominant, now they don´t care about how FEDERER IS REALLY PLAYING TENNIS.. they care about the trophies so that they can feel GOOD and Self confident IRL, somehow they have attached their Ego/personality&and well being to Mr.Federer.

Federer fans are never actually discussing tennis, i will be forever sad when Federer leaves the tennis scene (2+years?) but it will be so great to get rid of these Fedtards.
 

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Federer fans are never actually discussing tennis,.
Neither are Crocodilovic tards, they're just looking at a stats sheet.
 

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When will people actually watch tennis matches instead of using W/UE ratios to determine quality?
We do watch the matches. It just so happens that the neutral commentary always matches up with the numbers, while biased commentary doesn't :lol: (aka the chorus of "Federer played badly!" as soon as he loses)

If someone plays badly, the numbers will reflect it. If someone plays amazingly, the numbers will reflect it. Please stop acting like these are random numbers that don't mean anything.
 

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We do watch the matches. It just so happens that the neutral commentary always matches up with the numbers, while biased commentary doesn't :lol:

If someone plays badly, the numbers will reflect it. If someone plays amazingly, the numbers will reflect it. Please stop acting like these are random numbers that don't mean anything.
They're not. But winners and unforced errors aren't the only parts of a tennis match. Federer's FH is not as powerful as it was a decade ago, it's plain viewing through watching matches. A stat sheet does not break down the effectiveness of a single groundstroke or an important part of ones game.

Though I wouldn't expect Crocodilovic fans to know that since his game is robotic and repetitive and has played the same way all year :zzz:
 

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They're not. But winners and unforced errors aren't the only parts of a tennis match. Federer's FH is not as powerful as it was a decade ago, it's plain viewing through watching matches. A stat sheet does not break down the effectiveness of a single groundstroke or an important part of ones game.

Though I wouldn't expect Crocodilovic fans to know that since his game is robotic and repetitive and has played the same way all year

:zzz:
First part of your post "Bla Bla Bla Bla"

Second part Robotic "Perfect tennis?"" Repetitive "Which all time great didn´t play repetitive tennis?"
Oh lord..
 

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They're not. But winners and unforced errors aren't the only parts of a tennis match. Federer's FH is not as powerful as it was a decade ago, it's plain viewing through watching matches. A stat sheet does not break down the effectiveness of a single groundstroke or an important part of ones game.

Though I wouldn't expect Crocodilovic fans to know that since his game is robotic and repetitive and has played the same way all year :zzz:
I'll take neutral commentary and a stat sheet over a Fedtard's analysis any day. But thanks though.
 

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First part of your post "Bla Bla Bla Bla"

Second part Robotic "Perfect tennis?"" Repetitive "Which all time great didn´t play repetitive tennis?"
Oh lord..


All of his posts are blah...;)
 
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