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10-23 vs GOATdal (-13)
18-17 vs Djokovic (+1)
10-11 vs Murray (-1)

It looks possible.
 

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It's very likely, but I think Federer has remarkable positive record against a member of the big four which you forgot, Federer, because he beats himself most of the time, no?
 

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No he will finish with a positive h2h against murray and rightfully so.
 

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Damn it, why did i click on this thread, i should have known. I really need to start checking the names of people who start threads.

 

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Whether or not, it shouldn't matter. He's playing well into his 30s.
 

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Whether or not, it shouldn't matter. He's playing well into his 30s.
Only relevant for Djokovic.

Fed had a negative H2H against Nadal and Murray while he had the age advantage while they were still young and pre-prime. Arguably, Nadal was quick to reach his peak, but that can't be held against him. Federer also got the advantage of playing Murray when he was just back from surgery.
 

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Yeah no shit he's 6 years older than all of them.

What was the H2H record at the end of 2007?
 

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Yeah no shit he's 6 years older than all of them.

What was the H2H record at the end of 2007?
He's been behind Nadal and Murray for almost their entire professional careers.
 

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Why do people always focus on Federer's H2H against players he is still playing, and who are still near their best, while ignoring his H2H vs top players he faced earlier in his career, who have now retired or declined? Have a look at his H2H vs. Agassi, Hewitt, Roddick, del Potro, Wawrinka, Safin, Tsonga, Ferrero, Ferrer, Soderling, Davydenko, Moya etc.
 

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Who cares? He plays for titles. Is it better to have a great h2h record against the best if you keep losing to journeymen?
 

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When it comes to Andy, Roger has mainly beaten him where it matters, at the slams. Do you think either of them are that bothered about the head to head when, more often than not, Roger has beaten him at the grand slams? That is what players care about the most. A lot of fans don't even know what the head to head records are between their favourite players.

Do you think Nadal fans will focus on Davydenko having a better head to head against him when he has 14 slams and Davy has 0? Or will Djokovic fans really care that roddick has a good head to head record against him when Novak has 7 slams and roddick only has 1? Murray trails Berdych but who is the one with the 2 slams and OG?

Head to head is something that fans use when it suits them and ignore it when it doesn't. I wouldn't expect Roger to do well against them now he is nearly 33 for heavens sake. But it isn't a given that he will end with a negative head to head against Novak or Andy.
 

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When it comes to Andy, Roger has mainly beaten him where it matters, at the slams. Do you think either of them are that bothered about the head to head when, more often than not, Roger has beaten him at the grand slams? That is what players care about the most. A lot of fans don't even know what the head to head records are between their favourite players.

Do you think Nadal fans will focus on Davydenko having a better head to head against him when he has 14 slams and Davy has 0? Or will Djokovic fans really care that roddick has a good head to head record against him when Novak has 7 slams and roddick only has 1? Murray trails Berdych but who is the one with the 2 slams and OG?

Head to head is something that fans use when it suits them and ignore it when it doesn't. I wouldn't expect Roger to do well against them now he is nearly 33 for heavens sake. But it isn't a given that he will end with a negative head to head against Novak or Andy.
Haha... Olympic gold... that's why Roger still planning to play until Rio... if he beat Andy that very day... he probably retired by now.
 

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Federer plays through so many minor injuries and other shiznit compared to the other 3. Had he been more "normal" and maybe avoided some tournaments or even a slam or two when not feeling his best (like the others) he would have avoided maybe 7-8 of those losses at least.

H2H doesn't reward players that refuse to retire, are stubborn and also seems to intend to play until 35-36 somewhere. You can take Dull that take 5-6 months of when beeing a bit under the hill. That's not even in the cards for Federer. That's also why Dull has inflated his H2H vs the top and Federer is deflating it
 

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Federer plays through so many minor injuries and other shiznit compared to the other 3. Had he been more "normal" and maybe avoided some tournaments or even a slam or two when not feeling his best (like the others) he would have avoided maybe 7-8 of those losses at least.

H2H doesn't reward players that refuse to retire, are stubborn and also seems to intend to play until 35-36 somewhere. You can take Dull that take 5-6 months of when beeing a bit under the hill. That's not even in the cards for Federer. That's also why Dull has inflated his H2H vs the top and Federer is deflating it
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Why do people always focus on Federer's H2H against players he is still playing, and who are still near their best, while ignoring his H2H vs top players he faced earlier in his career, who have now retired or declined? Have a look at his H2H vs. Agassi, Hewitt, Roddick, del Potro, Wawrinka, Safin, Tsonga, Ferrero, Ferrer, Soderling, Davydenko, Moya etc.
The only really great players Roger has competed against in his prime which was up to age 30 were: Nadal, Novak and near great Murray. Many of his wins against these players was when he was in his prime and before they were, due to the age difference. Roger is probably past his physical prime today, but is still good enough to beat anyone on a given day or tournament. What older great players like Roger lack is the consistency of their youthful prime.
 
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