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When Fed started to dominate in 2004, he was playing ridiculous tennis. The kind of tennis that can only be possible when supreme talent met with great athleticism and dedication. The other supreme talents usually lacks dedication. Anyway, when Fed kept dominating the following years in a way that had never been seen before in sports, the ATP and the other players need to do something. Fast.

The ATP recognize that Fed was just too much of a beast on fast surface, they decided too slow down most of the courts so mens tennis can get more competitive again. Expecting the other players to play equal tennis with Fed was just too improbable, they need to hampered his game and pray the other players are doing something about it also.

The other players, namely Nadal, answered the ATP's prayers. Nadal and his coach, Toni, came up with the best solution. Competing with Fed using pure tennis skills was like taking a samurai sword to a gun fight. You need to be supremely skilled like that Ninja guy in the Ninja Assassin movie to even have a chance. As good as Nadal was, well, he's not that good. Anyway, they decided that the best way to beat Fed is to take away as much tennis as they can from the game of tennis itself. Made it more of a physical and mental battle. And as great and dedicated as Fed were, he was a tennis player not a warrior like Nadal. Nadal outlast, outgrind and pummeled Fed with his superior athleticism and willpower, every time. Until Fed started crying even. From then on, you all know the story.

Every player aspired to be the fittest. The most consistent. They don't bother with finesse and all around tennis skills anymore, just make like a wall and return everything back. Even the ball bashers became more consistent. Tennis right now is not about who is more skilled or more talented anymore, it's about the fittest and the mentally strong. Tennis has become a battle of endurance and athleticism. Tennis is no more a finesse sport, but a battle of gladiators. Tennis is ruin...

.. And it all because of Federer. He started all this.
 

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Good trolling.
 

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I believed that Federer had to match Nadals intensity but he was stubborn because he always believed he was the most talented. But he failed to realised that his superior talent was beating all other players because players used to give up before his talent and had lesser intensity but with Nadal his intensity was at a high level and never lagged but federer failed to match his intensity every time and hence failed.

one of the most important thing in comptetitive matches is to match the opponents intensity more than anything else.So far he has failed to realized this and continues to do the same mistakes.

When an Animal faces talent, talent cant do much.
 

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good thread

fedclown's total domination of the tour was too much to bear for the powers that be so they had more reasons to keep the changes that they had already planned since the late nineties. changes that were already going on at the time, i must say. nadal was the perfect answer. a talentless but muscular young teen from some unknown spanish island nobody outside of spain even knew existed in the first place. his coach? toni nadal, an unkown spaniard who hates the french and who's reported as rafito's uncle. thus tennis slowly started to become a show of strenght and endurace where talent was only 'optional'. the surfaces were rightly accomodated to such an end. the result: complete homogenization coupled with slowness in play.

but this year djokovic popped up strong. i wonder what the ATP will do now.. perhaps they'll try to speed up the courts again with the objective to diminish the level of success of someone like him. who knows? perhaps something good might come out of this mug season. they say the sun always comes out after a storm but then again, i fear things will get much worse before they get any better... :help:
 

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The courts were already being slowed down or Hewitt wouldn't have won 02 Wimbledon. Now if you want to say that the powers that be are responsible for Nadal winning Wimbledon/so many GSs, then I'd agree with you. Federer's game translates over all surfaces/eras, and he'd have won even more had the surfaces remained fast.
 

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I love stuff like this. Federer got too good, so the evil, cat-stroking, cigar smoking masterminds behind the ATP decided to slow the surfaces down, ALL of them, to stop this FEDERER!!!!!
 

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I love stuff like this. Federer got too good, so the evil, cat-stroking, cigar smoking masterminds behind the ATP decided to slow the surfaces down, ALL of them, to stop this FEDERER!!!!!
Yes. Federer is to blame.
 

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Cannot find a flaw. Solid reasoning.
 

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Competing with Fed using pure tennis skills was like taking a samurai sword to a gun fight. You need to be supremely skilled like that Ninja guy in the Ninja Assassin movie to even have a chance. As good as Nadal was, well, he's not that good.
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best thread of 2011:bowdown:
Simply flawless reasoning and arguments
 

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Yes, to quote Raferminator:

Best damn thread I've ever read on MTF. You should be awarded for being a visionary. Some of us out here noticed it and appreciated it
 

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But now that Olderer is fading and Nadull's body has broken down things can get back to normal, no?
 

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Yes this is true. Often people joke that Nadal and uncle Toni conspired to slow down the courts. Easy to forget that ATP along with everyone else realized it would be the death of tennis if Federer won and won and won and ended with 20+ slams. That's why it all started. Nadal just took advantage and only later became influential when it was already a clay tour.

In the end Federer was great on slow courts too so he was never the biggest losers in this change. The biggest losers were the players that was a bit older by the time and had lost some of the movement and wasn't good on slow courts. They found themselves dipping greatly in the rankings when clay stars could start to steal their points even in the supposed to be fast courts. Hence why we see so many spanish players in the top100 after the slow down while many talented veterans of fast courts found it hard to even stay in the top50
 
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