Wait. So you're of the opinion there's a debate about the matter?Every time I visit MTF I’m always wondering why the GOAT debate is so rarely mentioned on here. You’d think people would care enough to talk about it.
it’s all advanced discussion this, in-depth game analysis that. Terrible
Nadal at 2nd is a really tough ask. Sure, he's got the most weeks at #2—by about a 1,000 miles—but that doesn't secure it for him.If must know Nadal is barely 2nd all behind Djokovic if Nadal say was to win 21th major title he would end as Tennis Goat. And us for Federer he's 4th behind laver, Djokovic Nadal.
Your wrong Nadal weeks at number no.1 is still about 4 years all together which long time. and most consecutive weeks in top 10 in tennis history as well. I think if Nadal wins 21 he's the clear GOAT of tennis maybe he is Goat Already who knows or laver?.Nadal at 2nd is a really tough ask. Sure, he's got the most weeks at #2—by about a 1,000 miles—but that doesn't secure it for him.
He's somehow never even won the Tour Finals. That alone is massive. But having so few weeks at the #1 ranking just puts him out of contention.
Agreed of course. The mental frailty bit is a little overstated though. You don't do the things that Federer did with a weak mentality.Federer really did more than anyone could have expected of him. Made the best of his limitations and weak mentality, and was aesthetically a joy to watch while he was active. 🙌
Laver really played the game in a much different time. The sport on a professional level was largely isolated to a few nations, for starters.GOAT is a title reserved for Laver, Big3 are not going to reach him unless one of them wins at least 1 CYGS and 1 Olympics gold, or no Olympics but 2xCYGS.
I believe DCGS is very important next to all of that and thus why Djokovic is ahead of Federer and Nadal. If Nadal had won ATP finals at least 1 time it would be more debatable because he has both Olympics gold singles and Olympics gold doubles, so a really great resume at the most prestigious tournament, but ATP finals resume is just too much.
I still would put Nadal slightly ahead of Federer, due to Olympics gold single and h2h advantage, but it is very close, again lack of ATP finals sucks for Nadal, but it's more balanced due to Federer also lacking some masters, no DCGS, winning RG without ever beating Nadal at RG even with 6 chances, in fact in 6 matches he never managed to push Nadal to 5 sets, while Nadal managed to do so against Djokovic the first time they met in AO, etc. Still, I would've no issue with others putting Federer ahead of Nadal.
Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal are two best tennis players that ever played the game.Federer was never Goat in first place it was always Laver with his two grand slams 62,69 now it's Djokovic.