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Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singles?"

Dan Evans has fired back at Jamie Murray over his criticism of the Lawn Tennis Association and claimed that doubles players "didn't work hard enough" to make it in singles.

Murray spoke out after his second-round pairs victory at the Australian Open on Saturday, accusing the LTA of under-valuing doubles and not making the most of his coach Louis Cayer.

Murray said the Canadian should be performance director but Evans vehemently disagrees and told the Daily Mail: "Who exactly has Louis Cayer ever coached apart from doubles players? Why would British tennis allow him to take charge? It's a ludicrous comment.

"Jamie thinks we should be celebrating six pairs inside the main draw of a grand slam. So we are celebrating people who didn't make it at singles and people who didn't have the attitude to work hard enough to make it in the singles game?

"I like the doubles guys and they've done well, but to think we should celebrate this so the kids growing up look up to this as a huge achievement is completely wrong. Kids want to be in the second round of main draw singles events not doubles.

"We are the only country in the world to have a doubles coach travelling round paid for by the federation at the grand slams, they also receive medical and sports science help so saying they aren't appreciated simply isn't correct."
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/australian-open-2019-dan-evans-jamie-murray-andy-comments-doubles-lta-a8738071.html
 

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Dan Evans hasn't made it in singles or doubles. He's just a cokehead, really.
 

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Jesus, who does this guy thinks he is? Talking about working hard enough, the British federation not making the right choices. Son, have some humility. You brought your sport and your federation into disrepute by snorting lines of cocaine when you should have been on the practice courts, "working hard" for that singles success.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singles

I mean he has a point but he certainly could have expressed himself differently. Him literally calling out doubles specialists as singles failures is especially hilarious even if it's mostly true. I mean does anyone grow up thinking they want to be a full time doubles specialist? That's basically what he's getting at. Claiming they aren't working hard enough is a stretch and completely unfounded though. I'm not going to pretend to know anything about the inner workings of the LTA or Louis Cayer.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singl

He’s right but he worded it badly and was pretty disrespectful
 

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Didn't Jamie himself have injury problems at 18-19 or am I imagining that. Was talk he was a promising singles player at one time but switching to solely doubles at 20 dosen't seem to suggest that.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singl

Tennis ain't only a singles game. Quite stupid to think you only made it if you were successful at singles, to put it mildly :rolleyes:
 

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Evans is a total chav and i assume a bit simple given the way he expressed himself. Having said that most of what he said is true and it's entertaining when people mouth off sometimes.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singl

Evans has absolutely no class, tact or diplomacy, but the majority of what he's saying here is at least somewhat reasonable.

However, the implication that everyone who doesn't make it in singles hasn't worked hard enough is a stupid statement.

If you want to take that to its natural conclusion then you could say that if he'd worked harder then he'd be world number 1 in singles.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singl

OK, so if he had said instead "people who don't have the attitude to work hard enough, or the required natural athletic ability...", would it have been less offending to the people with the lesser natural athletic ability? Let's face it, people get offended a bit too easily nowadays. And no player with the athletic ability and work ethic of a Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, etc would've chosen doubles over singles. Why would they? Singles is far more exhilarating to play when you can move like a cat on the court, not to mention it pays multiple times more than doubles.
 

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He is completely wrong.

Doubles can be so much more entertaining than watching 2 ball bashers on the baseline. Doubles can need more skill, variety and instant reflexes. Tournaments and tennis would be much less without doubles, but this drug abusing minger is a sign of the times, and people who denigrate doubles will help reduce the sport to ball bashing snooze fests. We should be talking doubles up and giving it the respect it deserves. Jamie Murray has achieved far more and brought far more credit to his name and country than Evans ever will. I hope he loses every match he plays from now on in.
 

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OK, so if he had said instead "people who don't have the attitude to work hard enough, or the required natural athletic ability...", would it have been less offending to the people with the lesser natural athletic ability? Let's face it, people get offended a bit too easily nowadays. And no player with the athletic ability and work ethic of a Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, etc would've chosen doubles over singles. Why would they? Singles is far more exhilarating to play when you can move like a cat on the court, not to mention it pays multiple times more than doubles.
It has nothing to do with work ethic, and great champions and ambassadors of the sport we are supposed to be supporting were very proud of their doubles achievements.
 

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I'd like to see Dan Evans win multiple slams and make multiple finals in the doubles - with multiple different partners too - if its that much easier than singles. Not going to happen though is it. They are different games, different skills involved. Both singles and doubles should be celebrated.

Who doesn't enjoy doubles from time to time anyway? Anybody who plays tennis here is probably a bit more used to doubles that people who don't play. It's really common outside the professional game, more so than singles in my experience. Certainly true for British tennis anyway.
 

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Jamie's reponse: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/46943740

Jamie Murray has called comments by fellow Briton Dan Evans about the doubles game "ill-informed and dumb".

Six-time Grand Slam winner Murray said on Friday that doubles success deserved more credit from British tennis.

Evans has responded by saying doubles players were "people who didn't make it at singles".

"To lazily trash the doubles game, it annoys me a lot," said Murray, who is in the last eight of the men's and mixed doubles at the Australian Open.

Murray, 32, had said the Lawn Tennis Association (LTA), the governing body in Britain, "should not just focus on the health of the game based on singles".

Seven British men are ranked inside the world's top 60 doubles players - more than any other nation.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singl

Potato face hasn't done all that much in singles himself to be talking this smack though...
 

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Evans is absolutely right here.

Jamie Murray never gave a singles career a try. He only played few ITF tournaments and he obviously had the talent to make it to the Top 200/150 as he beat some future Top 200 players in his early days and he was a solid junior player too before. He switched to doubles in 2006, he was ~20 there.

Doubles tennis might be more entertaining from time to time but it's a joke compared to singles tennis. Let's face the truth. If we take a look at the Challenger or even ITF circuit there are so many really WEAK players who wouldn't even make it to the Top 1000 but winning tournaments there left and right. You do not have to be a good tennis player to be good in doubles and successfull.

If you want to raise a new gen of hungry players who want to win big titles you should not allow them to act like J. Murray did for example going the "easier" way only because of lacking work ethic.

Obviously he didn't talk about the guys who are turning to doubles later on in their careers because they notice they're good enough for singles Top 200/300. There are many examples who turned to doubles later on mid 20s or late 20s because they played on the ITF circuit for almost a decade and could not win a cake there.

But as always..."DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO"...so it should not be understood as an offense against them, it's simply the truth about something. Sometimes the truth hurts somebody although it's the truth.
 

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Re: Evans hits out at J.Murray: "We're celebrating people who didn't make it in singl

Obviously he is correct.
 
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