Rank the top 20 players (or however many you want) as well above average, above average, average, below average, or well below average FOR A TOP 20 OR 30 PLAYER- not just ATP player generally. Use current (last 12 months) form, not lifetime. Bolded two "best in class" of each category.

Novak Djokovic
Serve: Average
Forehand: Well above average Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Average Returns: Well above average Movement: Well above average

Roger Federer
Serve: Above average Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Average Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Above average

Rafael Nadal
Serve: Average Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Above average Movement: Well above average

Stan Wawrinka
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Above average Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Average

Kei Nishikori
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Andy Murray
Serve: Below average
Forehand: Well below average
Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Tomas Berdych
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Average

Milos Raonic Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Average
Backhand: Well below average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Well below average

Marin Cilic
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Average

David Ferrer
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Average Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Grigor Dimitrov
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Well below average Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Above average

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Well below average
Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Below average

Ernests Gulbis
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Average

Feliciano Lopez
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Below average

Roberto Bautista-Agut
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Well below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Above average

Kevin Anderson Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Well below average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Below average

Tommy Robredo
Serve: Below average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Above average

Fabio Fognini
Serve: Below average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Well above average

Gael Monfils
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Well above average

Gilles Simon
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Well above average

Novak Djokovic
Serve: Average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Roger Federer
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Above average

Rafael Nadal
Serve: Average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Well above average

Stan Wawrinka
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Average

Kei Nishikori
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Andy Murray
Serve: Below average
Forehand: Average
Backhand: Well above average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Tomas Berdych
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Average

Milos Raonic
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Well below average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Well below average

Marin Cilic
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Average

David Ferrer
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Well above average
Movement: Well above average

Grigor Dimitrov
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Above average

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Average

Ernests Gulbis
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Well below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Average

Feliciano Lopez
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Well below average
Backhand: Well below average
Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Below average

Roberto Bautista-Agut
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Well below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Above average

Kevin Anderson
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Below average

Tommy Robredo
Serve: Average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Below average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Well above average

Fabio Fognini
Serve: Below average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Above average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Well above average

Gael Monfils
Serve: Above average
Forehand: Above average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Average
Movement: Well above average

Gilles Simon
Serve: Well below average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Above average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Well above average

Milos Raonic
Serve: Well above average Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Well below average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Well below average

Dimitrov backhand and return isn't well below average for a top 20 or 30. For the single reason you won't be able to mention 20 or 30 current players with backhands or returns way better.

Backhand may be below average for a top 10 though, but not way below.

In the era of the shitty volleyers, the mediocre volley wins. I can buy that, but for your information I always hope for Roger to draw RaoDicK into the net because he always misses easy volleys - or hits stop volleys that sit up begging for punishment. Asking Milo to defend net is like asking a mongoose to play in traffic and survive. That's why I wouldn't put him higher than "average", because it's comical watching him miss the most simple of volleys.

Milos Raonic
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Below average
Backhand: Well below average
Volleys: Average (at best)
Returns: Well below average
Movement: Well below average

Roger Federer
Serve: Well above average
Forehand: Well above average
Backhand: Above average (after 2014)
Volleys: Well above average
Returns: Above average
Movement: Above average

Kevin Anderson
Serve: Well above average Forehand: Well below average
Backhand: Average
Volleys: Below average
Returns: Below average
Movement: Below average

No way Anderson's forehand is well below average top 20-30 level, his serve isn't bot level, it's more like Berdych level, his main weapon is serve + forehand combo, without that he wouldn't be a top 20.

Same can be said for Tsonga's return and backhand. Well, both are surely below average for a top 10 player, but average for a top 30 guy, otherwise he wouldn't be a top 12 player. He would be 25-30.

My point is: a top 20 player can't be such bad (way below top 30) at important strokes like backhand, forehand or return, unless he is a bot almost impossible to break. Otherwise he wouldn't be ranked so high.

No way Anderson's forehand is well below average top 20-30 level, his serve isn't bot level, it's more like Berdych level, his main weapon is serve + forehand combo, without that he wouldn't be a top 20.

Same can be said for Tsonga's return and backhand. Well, both are surely below average for a top 10 player, but average for a top 30 guy, otherwise he wouldn't be a top 12 player. He would be 25-30.

My point is: a top 20 player can't be such bad (way below top 30) at important strokes like backhand, forehand or return, unless he is a bot almost impossible to break. Otherwise he wouldn't be ranked so high.

Anderson's serve is WAY better than Berdych's, IMO it is bot level. Sort of in between Karlovic/Groth/Isner/Raonic level and Tsonga/del Potro/Chardy level. You definitely can be horrible on some important categories if you excel otherwise. Hell, even for top 100, Karlovic is "well below average" in every category but serve and volley and "average" on volleys.

Serve: Below Average
Forehand: Below Average
Backhand: Below Average
Cussing: Well Above Average
Harassing Umpires: Well Above Average
Vollyes: Average
Returns: Below Average
Smashing Racquets: Exceptional
Movements: Below Average.

You definitely can be horrible on some important categories if you excel otherwise. Hell, even for top 100, Karlovic is "well below average" in every category but serve and volley and "average" on volleys.

But that's exactly why I said man, you can't be horrible at some category like backhand, return or forehand and be a top 20-30 player in the world, unless you're a phenomenal server (Karlovic).

But that's exactly why I said man, you can't be horrible at some category like backhand, return or forehand and be a top 20-30 player in the world, unless you're a phenomenal server (Karlovic).

But Anderson is a great server, a serve based player. His forehand is very bad, it is truly a horrible and unreliable shot (probably bigger than his backhand, but really sprays probably more than any other top 20 player). His return and backhand are both unusually good for a servebot though.

I saw him live the day before yesterday :shrug:. I can honestly say I think his speed (as a poster on the last page said) is an underrated part of his game. And this was a match where he played shit .

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