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From "Jana Novotna" sydrome? :sad:

His latest match has me worried he may suffer from an almost incurable choking problem.

Hopefully he's just going to take a little while to mature his mental game, and this isn't the case...

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The way he played his break points in the first set actually reminded me of Grosjean when he choked at the Australian, playing way too conservative and letting the other player dictate. He did that from when he was leading to the first few games of the second set. In the 3rd set he was better on the break points, playing aggressively but it was too late then. But he is still young, and has improved from the last few years, I think a couple of years ago he would have gone away after the first set but now he is fighting. He also needs to work on that backhand, it was horrible in this match.
 

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I didn't get to see the match, I only followed scores.

And that was my thought as well - that seeing him fight, right to the end was a BIG improvement.

From what I saw scorewise, it's still a match that he should have won IMO.

But the toughest mentally won, so what can you do.

Thanks for the input :)
 

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He does. ALL my favorite players do!:sad:

But after that match, there is NO DOUBT who the most talented player on ATP is!
 

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well his weakness is his mental fragility.But he does have the most talent.:) which is why I like him so much.:) I think sometimes his slice backhands worked well but sometimes he just threw away points by either dropping them short or hitting them out.His forehand wasnt firing, unusually. :( he made most of his UE's on FH.
 

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His backhand was not weak at all!!! And neither was his forehand. He was inconsistent at times but against Lleyton you have to really go for high risk shots and are challenged at all times. He used just about every kind of backhand imaginable today but he does need to work on the backhand passing shot and backhand lobs. But in general he played awesome and I do think he was mentally worn down at the end. Hewitt does that to you. :D
 

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Federer didn't choke, Hewitt just played well...and he had to play well to win last night. I actually have TV coverage of this event for a change :)...and Federer was looking pretty good.
 

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Maybe he was burned out after winning the three RR matches? It happened to Carlos as well. And it happened to Kafelnikov last year. And to Safin in 2000...

Or maybe he choked, yes... :(
It was a very strange match, indeed
 

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Roger played so well those 3 RR matches and i was hoping that he'd play as good against Hewitt. But he was not on, he didn't serve well, he missed on his FH, when he sliced on his bh they were a bit short and Hewitt brings them back, Hewitt made errors too, but Roger couldn't capitalize on those break points, he double faulted, he never had these in those other matches...he did a Jana.
Technically he's brilliant, and he's got great hands, what he lacks is mental strength. If he had this, he'd win Slams...
 

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That's really something Roger has to work on it. His mentall strength!! That absolut determined will to win no mather what. That's why LH is Nr. 1. (The same made Steffi winning all the time..) Lleyton's like a phanter out there running down every ball and still be able to bring them back pretty good and forcing his opponent to make errors couse they're surprised he brings the ball back....

So please Roger work on that. Show your determined will to win out there!! Try to look angry at your opponent. And please next time don't miss all your chances!! O.K. since I'm actually learning how to play tennis - it's easy to know better just from watching it - I know how little it needs to overpower a shot. But there were far to many just missing the line - and then you get overrulled on a pretty important point (yes the one in the first set who cost you the set) which actually just touched the line and was in grrrrrr .

The fighting spirit wasn't lacking otherwise you would have lost in two just that little last determination wasn't around. That hmmm how can I say showing confidence, knowing and showing you not only can win but will win even when beeing behind and O.K. maybe also a bit of luck. But with that determination LH show's on court you would not need to relate on luck. You would have served that first set home!! Or you would have used one of the breakballs in the 3rd especially at 4:3. And your shots on big points would have been winners...

Oh well it's over now and things won't turn around by lamenting over it.

Wish you an enjoyable holiday and a good preperation for the next season. And I'll keep the fingers crossed for you in the next season. And I hope you'll get that last little missing something on your menthal preperation. That's why I'm already looking forward to the next season and hopping for a sweet little revenge maybe already at the AO!!

Go for it Roger!!

As for he beeing like Jana well next year will show...
 

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well, what can i add? i just think it's getting better, actually. i'm pretty optimistic that roger will work out this part of the game as well.
 

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I don't doubt that he will overcome this with time.

He's still young, and a lot of men don't hit their peak untill their mid 20's.

I do believe he will win slams etc, and live up to his potential at some point.

He is just frusterating sometimes ;)
 

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Federer didn't choke, Hewitt just played well...and he had to play well to win last night. I actually have TV coverage of this event for a change :)...and Federer was looking pretty good.
I didn't get coverage of this match, I got the first semi final.

I DID follow scores, and saw how many set points he had in the first, which is what made me think this - not even based on this match, but based on a number of matches this year, and before.

I'm not insulting him - I'm merely questioning his main weakness, which I feel is appropriate.

I have tremendous respect for his game, I LOVE watching play, and often root for him. He makes my long list of favourites.

I don't get this concerned about players i'm not interested in.

Anyhow - are you willing to concede that ANYONE ever chokes against Hewitt? lol. Just wondering.

I'm willing to admit that sometimes people choke against my fave - for example, Gaudio FO 2002. :)

Just wanted to ask ;)
 

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Actually they both played great tennis, but on important points Lleyton just waited for Roger to make an unforced error.
 

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It is amazing how times change. Federer going from a flake to a Tier 1 player, and mental giant in the space of 2 and a half years. Drudging up old threads is always amusing. Now if only Marat could buck up as well, and fulfill his potential.
 

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jazz_girl said:
:lol: I love old threads! :lol:
:lol: I love them too. Nice to see what happened when I wasn't following tennis and how things have progressed. Keep up bringing up the past, people! :p
 
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