does it bother you that agassi faced no top 30 players until the final?

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FaceyFacem

Discussion Starter · Sep 11, 2005

it bothers me... i mean, it's not his fault, there's nothing you can do, that's the way it played out, so be it, but it definitely bothers me, granted, beating federer alone would be an accomplishment (especially in the finals), so i guess that would redeem it, but i just feel wrong about reaching a GS final w/ no matches vs. top 30....

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federer express

· #2 · Sep 11, 2005

FaceyFacem said:
it bothers me... i mean, it's not his fault, there's nothing you can do, that's the way it played out, so be it, but it definitely bothers me, granted, beating federer alone would be an accomplishment (especially in the finals), so i guess that would redeem it, but i just feel wrong about reaching a GS final w/ no matches vs. top 30....

oh dear....

what can you do but play the people in front of you. and he had to beat two of the form men of the last month or so in blake and ginepri and also had the super-talented malisse and berdych! all of whom are genuine top 30 players at least (in standard).

disturb3d

· #3 · Sep 11, 2005

He's the most accomplished hardcourter in men's tennis.
There's nothing left to prove.

Björki

· #4 · Sep 11, 2005

I have no problem with it.

let's go Andre.

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AgassiFan

· #5 · Sep 11, 2005 (Edited)

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Ljubica

· #6 · Sep 11, 2005

FaceyFacem said:
it bothers me... i mean, it's not his fault, there's nothing you can do, that's the way it played out, so be it, but it definitely bothers me, granted, beating federer alone would be an accomplishment (especially in the finals), so i guess that would redeem it, but i just feel wrong about reaching a GS final w/ no matches vs. top 30....

It kind of bothers me too - though I admit that is just a biased, knee-jerk reaction on my part because I don't like Agassi (never have done), and I don't want him to win this tournament. I know the draw is not his fault in any way, it is NOT rigged to favour him and there is absolutely no reason for it to irritate me - but it does - can't help it and at least I admit it......

thrust

· #7 · Sep 11, 2005

He beat the guy who beat the #2 ranked player, as well as the guy who beat Coria. Get real!!

LaTenista

· #8 · Sep 11, 2005

Ginepri propelled himself up to 21 in the world with the win over Coria in the QFs so I'd have to say this thread is null and void, sorry. :tape:

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mandoura

· #9 · Sep 11, 2005

Not in the least. His place in the final is well deserved. He played all his matches and won them, fair and square.

R.Federer

· #10 · Sep 11, 2005

It is their fault if they could not do well enough to meet andre as seeded. 13 days ago, there were complaints that his draw was too tough. he lives up to his end of the bargain and others fall of the wayside. now, who should it bother? the ones who fell off

thrust

· #11 · Sep 11, 2005

If Roger loses today, and I hope he does, there is going to be some severe depression on this forum. SOME of Roger^s fans are as arrogant and paranoid as SOME of the Williams sister^s fans have been.

Papakori

· #12 · Sep 11, 2005

I agree, Agassi had to play the players that he had to so there is not anything to be bothered about. And even if rankings aren't top 30 a lot of them he played had the talent and are in splendid form!

AgassiFan

· #13 · Sep 11, 2005 (Edited)

FaceyFacem said:
it bothers me... i mean, it's not his fault, there's nothing you can do, that's the way it played out, so be it, but it definitely bothers me, granted, beating federer alone would be an accomplishment (especially in the finals), so i guess that would redeem it, but i just feel wrong about reaching a GS final w/ no matches vs. top 30....

That's too simplistic a way of looking at things. Berdych was easily as "tough" as Nalbandian, and Blake in the first 2.5 sets, played better than Hewitt did. Ginperi generally wasn't far off from what Kiefer was offering, either, but ran out of gas playing 4 straight 5-setters. Even, Malisse and Karlovic presented their problems - hell they almost beat Andre..... Hey, would you have felt better had Andre took out Nadal, Coria and Roddick instead? Because the guys he beat did just that.

This is exactly what I was talking about: some shallow MTF losers whining all day long. Instead of cheering on Federer to rip Agassi's (whom they hate with passion) heart out today, they bitch and moan and conspiracy-theorize... Poor sods.

Why can't some people just enjoy tennis? I loved Fed, Safin and now Nadal and Gasquet when they were in juniors and then somewhat-struggling ATP teens; loads of talent, lots of flash and uniqueness about them. Now since they reached their primes (or close to reaching with the latter two) obviously I DON'T ROOT for them to win since I am an Agassi fan, but especially when Agassi is out, I still admire and respect what those players bring to the table when healthy. Ditto for Roddick, Hewitt, Ferrero, Nalbandian, etc..... And if the aformentioned players are fortunate enough to have the desire and good health to last into their late 30's and still display Top 10-caliber tennis, you certainly won't hear as much as a peep out of me.

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RogiFan88

· #14 · Sep 11, 2005

not AA's fault that Pandy and Rafa crapped out early

njnetswill

· #15 · Sep 11, 2005

He still had to play some tough matches...so it doesn't matter to me. He earned his spot in the final.

Clara Bow

· #16 · Sep 11, 2005

I always think that people who get far in a tournament deserve to be there. It is not their fault if the higher seeds fell out before they had a chance to meet them. Men's tennis is so deep with talent nowadays anyway, in my opinion, so you can run into a player who may not be ranked in the top 20 - but still has great talent. That's part of what makes the sport so exciting to me nowadays.

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WF4EVER

· #17 · Sep 11, 2005

It doesn't bother me in the least. He played every match he had toplay to get to the Final and beat every player he had to play.

Question is: Will it hurt him?

Scotso

· #18 · Sep 11, 2005

It doesn't bother me that he got to the finals that way, but it WILL bother me that people will call this some kind of a miracle... that at 35 he did this. Well, he just held his seeding. He didn't beat play anyone in the top 30, so he SHOULD have been in the final, really.

It's a good run either way, but I just hope people don't go on and on about how miraculous it is. What's more miraculous is that the top players played so poorly in the bottom half.

Viken01

· #19 · Sep 11, 2005

yeah for me this week blake and ginepri had the level of top 10 players so it doesn't bother me, because for example ginepri beat coria, so even if it wasn't a match against a top 10 player, blake and ginepri's level was high but agassi beat them

ExpectedWinner

· #20 · Sep 11, 2005 (Edited)

It doesn't bother me. When I first had a look at the draw, I thought " The USTA doesn't care about the old man any more (J/K)." The draw has opened up a bit, but he still had to beat a few dangerous hc players.

Speaking of miracles, it's unbelievable that he's still up to the challenge physically and mentally at this age. All his peers have been playing golf for a few years already.

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