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This is just the usual level of delusion from Djoko fans. Musetti stopped playing after set 2 and retired 'for the crowd' and Berret could only servebot and hit massive FHs.

What's your point about Sinner and Schwartz? The latter played his best tennis this whole clay season vs Rafa.
Berrettini played his best as well and beats Schwartzman any day with that performance. He has the serve, Schwartzman does not. Clearly the better player to win.

Musetti's level was miles ahead of the dumbness of Sinner. Sinner was nothing. Djokovic would have never lost a set to Sinner and would have him and his weak mind for breakfast. Didnt you laugh about Sinner ahaha. And then Schwartzman imploding, no stamina left and whenever Nadal decides to end this match he can break that little guy whenever he wants and you guys call these opponents better ? Please, wake up. Once !

Nadal will destroy Djokovic anyway. I am talking just about who had the tougher road, better opponents so far.
 

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I guess what I am saying is that I don't trust your accessment of the players. Musetti looked better than Sinner because Nadal is better than Djokovic.
Didnt you see how easy it was for Djokovic to destroy Sinner in Monte Carlo ? Who is better now ? Nadal is far more scared from Sinner. Sinner destroyed himself as usual. Mentally nowhere while Musetti is the real deal mentally and game wise.
Very concerning to be honest that you did not see it. Hope you at least saw both matches otherwise this is a joke discussion.
 
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Uhm no, he wouldn't destroy Diego who always gives him trouble. It'd probably be 4 or even 5 sets with the way Djoko's playing now.
Nadal struggles far more with Schwartzman here than Djokovic. Djokovic is the most aggressive and different style of return player than Nadal. Schwartzman prefers Nadal's style of point build up and play. Djokovic can break him whenever he wants. Not with Berrettini. Very tough.
 

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1) Your ranking is quite nonsense, because Nadal cannot face Nadal which is not his fault ofc. You can only judge if that player is facing the toughest player POSSIBLE. And for Nadal - it is Djokovic. So they are both facing the toughest possible opponent in SF.

2) I am actually disappionted you also jumped the bandwagon of "peak Berrettini" stuff. Reading about peaking servebot on clay is always funny especially given how many servebots were successful on clay in recent 20 years....exactly zero. In case you haven't noticed Isner, Raonic, Anderson etc. were always packing their bags very soon in Paris. Love that MTF logic - Matteo is shooting powerful forehands = he is peaking. Diego is small without a serve = he is weak. Really stupid stuff there. On clay you need variety of shots, coverage of court, ROS, serve is not too efficient on clay as on other surfaces. I rarely make predictions, but I am certain Diego would defeat Matteo in BO5 on Chatrier. Just look at Diego vs. KAndy (then ranked 7th and he reached Wimby F soon after) match in R4 of RG18 and you will see how powerful serve and FH bombs fare against clay specialist.... Your assumption that Matteo > Diego on clay is rather a wish that is not factually based and exposes the true knowledge of tennis on MTF.
Berrettini wasn't all that but your analysis is lacking. Anderson was actually destroying Schwartzman in that match until he got to serve for the match and began an exquisite choke. The difference was between the ears, not in their tennis skills.

Big game is by default more dangerous than small game, the thing is that Berrettini's backhand is just far too weak - considerably weaker than prime Raonic, let alone Roddick who had a decent grind game, and their backhands weren't shiny but Berr's is actually poor by like top 30 standards. So he's fairly easy to expose, and Djokovic should have won in straights if he hadn't brainfarted in the tiebreak. Nadal's game even in pushdal phase would probably be enough to deny Berrettini any opportunities, just spam to BH and he'll crumble faster than ever.
 

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Bulldal’s draws at the French Open and some US Opens were so difficult, were they?
Diego was so clueless about getting tired. He kept pushing the ball back to Bull. That was great point construction.
Musetti was pretty good at 19. Matteo crushed the ball. He didn’t melt down like Diego.
How many clay genius matches did Diego win? He’s a sweet guy but he didn’t do that well on clay before 2020.
 

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Berrettini played his best as well and beats Schwartzman any day with that performance. He has the serve, Schwartzman does not. Clearly the better player to win.

Musetti's level was miles ahead of the dumbness of Sinner. Sinner was nothing. Djokovic would have never lost a set to Sinner and would have him and his weak mind for breakfast. Didnt you laugh about Sinner ahaha. And then Schwartzman imploding, no stamina left and whenever Nadal decides to end this match he can break that little guy whenever he wants and you guys call these opponents better ? Please, wake up. Once !

Nadal will destroy Djokovic anyway. I am talking just about who had the tougher road, better opponents so far.
According to you, Berrettini who can't hit a decent BH, relies heavily on his serve, would beat a guy like Diego who's an elite returner, is fast, covers the court well, can attack, counterpunch, and defend and has a proven track record on clay and RG. The difference in variety alone between these two is huge. As usual you give no credit to Nadal for making Diego 'implode'. Where was the implosion, by the way?

Be honest to yourself and admit you're hyping Musetti and Berret to make Djoko seem like some kind of a hero for managing to beat them. Neither came even close to winning (Musetti gave up in mid 3rd set) so I don't really know what you're talking about.
 

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Bulldal’s draws at the French Open and some US Opens were so difficult, were they?
Diego was so clueless about getting tired. He kept pushing the ball back to Bull. That was great point construction.
Musetti was pretty good at 19. Matteo crushed the ball. He didn’t melt down like Diego.
How many clay genius matches did Diego win? He’s a sweet guy but he didn’t do that well on clay before 2020.
Even some of Rafa's hardcore haters had to admit he has a tough draw this year. There's one thing worse than haters around here: people like you who enjoy living in a wonderland where their idol is a martyr and everyone else has it easy. Pretty sad if you ask me.
 

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Why does it even matter? It's RG and he is gonna enjoy some bakery stuff and pack for home no matter what
 

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Why do people keep acting Berretini cannot play on clay and just calling him a servebot? He won Belgrade beating Karatsev, who beat Djokovic, and made the finals of Madrid and took Zverev to 3 tough sets. He's obviously had a good clay season and played Djokovic very tough in sets 3 and 4 in that last match.
 

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I guess what I am saying is that I don't trust your accessment of the players. Musetti looked better than Sinner because Nadal is better than Djokovic.
Sinner was ****ing trash. 11 winners and 40 unforced errors? Get out of here with that crap.
 

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Yes. Bull fans are desperate to help him win 3 more French Opens. He can barely win 1 or 2 clay titles.
Meanwhile Djoker will have at least 26 Slams and 20+ Masters titles.
 

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It's pretty obvious that Tsitsipas had the toughest draw:

From R3:

Isner
PCB
Medvedev
Zverev
Nadal/Djokovic

It's not even close. Nadal had the harder projected draw, but Sonego and Rublev/Karatsev flunked out.
I'm a Novak fan but he's right while Novak's draw is a little tough it's nothing compare to Tsitsipas draw for sure.
 
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Roflll Schwartzman alone is better all the mugs Djokovic faced!

Berrettini without a backhand took a set off Novak!
 

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The fans of Nadal argue against better judgment. It is obvious that their hero always gets the easiest draw at Roland Garros, well, maybe except for 2015-16, which was the rare exception. Think of it. As far as I have seen, Rafa is the only player in the field who doesn't have to get past a certain king of clay to get the title, a player who is nearly invincible at Philip Chatrier. And this seems to happen every year, I cannot believe the luck of the Spaniard.
 

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I guess what I am saying is that I don't trust your assessment of the players. Musetti looked better than Sinner because Nadal is better than Djokovic.
Tbf Djokovic never played Musetti in an ATP match/a slam before and he used to struggle with players whom he never met before. I wouldn't read much into it, also a lot of hypotheticals here about matchups we haven't seen in this year's clay season or only in RG.
 
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Sandgren (always a dangerous first round opponent with his aggressive style)
Cuevas (clay specialist in a good form this tournament !)
Berankis (W/0 -> predictable easy matchup)
Musetti (great defense and technique and controlled forehand offense and net touch)
Berrettini (peaking servebot plus forehand of death combo)

Both Djokovic's opponents would have destroyed these Nadal djoke players. One cant play at the net and without a mind and the other has no serve, you can break him whenever you want lol)

Musetti >>>>> Sinner
Berrettini > Schwartzman

Compared to Nadal Djokovic had the tougher opposition, contrary to the initial look at the draw from the beginning. Factually Djokovic is confirmed to had the stronger opponents afterwards.

Tsitsipas' strongest opponents were Chardy, Isner and Medvedev.

Ranking the difficulty of the opposition - the factual path.

1) Djokovic (with opponent Nadal he will definitely be above Tsitsipas but in my opinion even without the SF match already)

2) Tsitsipas (Decide for yourself whose was tougher)

3) Nadal (due to Schwartzman, Norrie, Sinner was a complete joke ahahaha)

4) Zverev (the easiest road to the SF, clearly)
Butthurt already , before hes lost :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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