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Bit late to the party but it's official. Nadaltards were hoping and praying that Murphy could win Wimbledon so that both faker and Fed don't push dull down the ladder but guess what? It didn't happen. Props for trying.


BTW for those who are as bad at math as I am, 3 Wimby> 2, 6 HC slam > 3.

So the question remains are Nadaltards in bigger ruins than Fedfans after Fed's defeat? Has there ever been a time in history when Nadaltards were in bigger ruins than Fedfans after Fed lost?


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I already wrote: Djokovic beat Nadal on all big events except Shanghai (because they didn't play there):

AO, IW, Miami, Monte Carlo, Madrid, Rome, RG, Wimbledon, Canada, Cincinnati, US Open, Shanghai, Paris, WTF
 

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Djokovic is better than Nadal. Period.
 

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Rafa is too stronger than Djokovic on clay to worry about your stats :wavey: :wavey:
Rafa is GOAT on 1/3 surfaces, Djokovic on 0/3 :lol::lol:
 

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Still less slams.
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Djokovic started winning slams almost 3 years later than Nadal, then let him give another 3 years and he will at least equal their slam count by 2018.
 

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Why do fedtards keep trying to crap on Dull's achievements? Do they realise that they are proving that Roger was a fraud, vulture and a false goat by highlighting how such an apparently crap player like Dull comprehensively dominated their idol?

Bizarre stuff from a bizarre bunch of folk.
 

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Poor Na-dulltard's dream! :haha:
 

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Considering his current slams, masters and WTFs, Djokovic is not that far from becoming HC goat till the end of career, though.
The US Open should be a priority IMO. His record in finals there has been poor to say the least. Other than that his record on hard-courts everywhere else has been stellar. (Except perhaps Cincinnati.)
 

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The US Open should be a priority IMO. His record in finals there has been poor to say the least. Other than that his record on hard-courts everywhere else has been stellar. (Except perhaps Cincinnati.)

Federer 9 slams/11 finals, 17 masters/25 finals , 6 wtf/3 finals
Sampras 7 slams/11 finals, 10 masters/18 finals, 5 wtf/1 final (carpet, the last two wins HC)
Djokovic 6 slams/10 finals, 17 masters/23 finals, 4 wtf

Agasi, Lendl & Connors are close to Djokovic but Djokovic is already arguably better.
 

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Djokovic started winning slams almost 3 years later than Nadal, then let him give another 3 years and he will at least equal their slam count by 2018.
He started winning slams later than Nadal because his pushing game was easily dismissed by in-form top players.

Also, he's only 1 year younger and has 5 less slams, so your argument is pretty much irrelevant :wavey:
 

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Bit late to the party but it's official. Nadaltards were hoping and praying that Murphy could win Wimbledon so that both faker and Fed don't push dull down the ladder but guess what? It didn't happen. Props for trying.


BTW for those who are as bad at math as I am, 3 Wimby> 2, 6 HC slam > 3.

So the question remains are Nadaltards in bigger ruins than Fedfans after Fed's defeat? Has there ever been a time in history when Nadaltards were in bigger ruins than Fedfans after Fed lost?


Discuss.
How can it push Rafa down the ladder? The legend has 14 slams. It doesn't matter what format. Until Novak gets 15 Rafa tops him plain and simple.

Djokovic HAD to excel on grass. Because he has underachieved on clay. And at best may grab one FO. But let's remember Nadal is the GOD of clay. Nobody is in his league. Whereas you can argue about grass and HARDCOURT greatness. The argument is long over on clay.

So in that regard. For Rafa to have also made 5 Wimbledon finals and won 2 is very respectable. And to have done the AMERICAN HARDCOURT TREBLE. Something that neither Federer or Djokovic has done. Is also very respectable. So it doesn't matter if Novak wins 5 WIMBLEDONS. He needs that to compensate for his dissappointing results on clay.
 

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John Mcenroe is a better player than Nadal on 2/3 surfaces also (4 USO, 3 WB).

Is he a better player than Nadal with 1/2 the slams (7 vs 14)? No.

Case closed.

Bye Noletards :wavey:

Come back when N0le reaches 14 :sport:
 

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John Mcenroe is a better player than Nadal on 2/3 surfaces also (4 USO, 3 WB).

Is he a better player than Nadal with 1/2 the slams (7 vs 14)? No.

Case closed.

Bye Noletards :wavey:

Come back when N0le reaches 14 :sport:
Exactly, Novak may yet SURPASS Nadal and Sampras tied on 14 slams. But he has work to do first 6 slams worth of work. If and when he does that I will congratulate Djokovic fans. And agree he is the greater overall player. But Nadal will forever be GOD OF CLAY. The rest is there for the taking
 
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He started winning slams later than Nadal because his pushing game was easily dismissed by in-form top players.

Also, he's only 1 year younger and has 5 less slams, so your argument is pretty much irrelevant :wavey:
Yep, young Djokovic was all about pushing, whereas non-pushing Nadal won a non-clay slam later than Djokovic.

Nadal became pro a two years earlier than Djokovic because he was ready to win on the clay by incessantly retrieving every ball till opponents error or shorter ball (because they allowed him unprecedented 40-50 seconds between the points for his young lungs) but Djokovic made the finals at AO and USO earlier, regardless of the fixed HC draws in Nadal' favor with Federer & Djokovic since their USO'07 final always in the same half for eight consecutive HC slams, so that the friend of KiAO can hopefully make the HC finals and be as fresh as daisy for Federer or Djokovic.

Since 2012 Federer was no longer HC Peakerer but more of HC Olderer, that's why the friend of KiAO is always in his half there 2012-today, whereas Djokovic always with Stanimal at AO/USO 2012-today.

So, Djokovic has played two seasons less, and IMO he won't be able to win more than 12 in the end, but probably finishing with more GS finals and masters titles than Nadal.
 
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